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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Boy did this post age well
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    To be perfectly honest, I didn't realize this was a necro'd thread until I had read most of it lol. As much as frequent forum posters here might object, FFXIV is doing very well for itself.
    I feel like we all need to take a moment to reflect on just how good we have it here compared to other games in the genre and least every once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Boy did this post age well
    Well, yes. Yes it did. It's currently one of the most successful MMO's available, handily overtaking World of Warcraft in terms of active players. Endwalker was an absolute gem, and a fitting finale to the Ascian saga, and we've even given some of the Twelve a kick in the backside. I'm not really sure what more you're asking for, or what you're implying. Can it be improved? Absolutely, but then so can anything. Does that make it bad? No, absolutely not.

    Then again, maybe my expectations are just more realistic and less grandiose. Perhaps I should dream bigger, but bigger isn't always better. Anyone who's seen sweeping changes to former MMO's knows how easily tipped the balance can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Well, yes. Yes it did. It's currently one of the most successful MMO's available, handily overtaking World of Warcraft in terms of active players. Endwalker was an absolute gem, and a fitting finale to the Ascian saga, and we've even given some of the Twelve a kick in the backside. I'm not really sure what more you're asking for, or what you're implying. Can it be improved? Absolutely, but then so can anything. Does that make it bad? No, absolutely not.

    Then again, maybe my expectations are just more realistic and less grandiose. Perhaps I should dream bigger, but bigger isn't always better. Anyone who's seen sweeping changes to former MMO's knows how easily tipped the balance can be.
    And where are you getting the stats it has overtaken WoW as a whole? I could see if you are counting Retail and Classic separately but they share a subscription fee thus one payment gets you access to both each month and they should be counted together. Again I would just want data here to prove it as it is hard to fathom between two games somehow one is beating them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    And where are you getting the stats it has overtaken WoW as a whole? I could see if you are counting Retail and Classic separately but they share a subscription fee thus one payment gets you access to both each month and they should be counted together. Again I would just want data here to prove it as it is hard to fathom between two games somehow one is beating them.
    It's very difficult to get solid numbers for both games considering neither of them release that information publicly. All we have is skewed attempts done by the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    To be perfectly honest, I didn't realize this was a necro'd thread until I had read most of it lol. As much as frequent forum posters here might object, FFXIV is doing very well for itself.
    I feel like we all need to take a moment to reflect on just how good we have it here compared to other games in the genre and least every once in a while.
    There are several things I'd praise FFXIV for it's true.

    Having the worst designed healer classes I've ever seen in a video game and a combat development dictate to lobotomize, simplify, and drag every class down closer to drooling on one button for the duration of an encounter are -not- among them.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Well, yes. Yes it did. It's currently one of the most successful MMO's available, handily overtaking World of Warcraft in terms of active players. Endwalker was an absolute gem, and a fitting finale to the Ascian saga, and we've even given some of the Twelve a kick in the backside. I'm not really sure what more you're asking for, or what you're implying. Can it be improved? Absolutely, but then so can anything. Does that make it bad? No, absolutely not.

    Then again, maybe my expectations are just more realistic and less grandiose. Perhaps I should dream bigger, but bigger isn't always better. Anyone who's seen sweeping changes to former MMO's knows how easily tipped the balance can be.
    I don't feel it was a good end to the Ascian saga since it really feels like that whole thing was pushed aside in the first half of the expansion to focus on this entirely new concept of dynamis and our new 11th hour villain. For all the years we spent playing up the importance of Hydaelyn and Zodiark they were brushed aside so easily and quickly that they really felt more like side content than the entire focus of the narrative for 4 expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    There are several things I'd praise FFXIV for it's true.

    Having the worst designed healer classes I've ever seen in a video game and a combat development dictate to lobotomize, simplify, and drag every class down closer to drooling on one button for the duration of an encounter are -not- among them.
    I'm glad we agree.

    Also thank you for your unrequested and unrelated opinion on healers and job design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    I'm glad we agree.

    Also thank you for your unrequested and unrelated opinion on healers and job design.
    What, in this thread talking about how great FFXIV is? If you can't see how that's related, perhaps that explains why you're so satisfied with the current state of the game.
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