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    Boy did this post age well
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Boy did this post age well
    This thread makes milk look like it ages well lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    This thread makes milk look like it ages well lmao
    Well technically it still is accurate to a degree it has aged well.. blizzard still keep screwing up other IP like Diablo 4 and overwatch cause they have no clear vision. WoW technically has had one decently received expansion after 3 back to back bad experiences but that’s one game in their library. 14 has a consistent vision still regardless if it’s one you like or not and they have pretty much still stuck to their guns on it for better or worse. Probably going to have to wait till 7.1 before we see if truly we need to course correct (player count is still very healthy for an mmo, yeah not the healthiest it was but either way)
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    Boy did this post age well
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Boy did this post age well
    Well, yes. Yes it did. It's currently one of the most successful MMO's available, handily overtaking World of Warcraft in terms of active players. Endwalker was an absolute gem, and a fitting finale to the Ascian saga, and we've even given some of the Twelve a kick in the backside. I'm not really sure what more you're asking for, or what you're implying. Can it be improved? Absolutely, but then so can anything. Does that make it bad? No, absolutely not.

    Then again, maybe my expectations are just more realistic and less grandiose. Perhaps I should dream bigger, but bigger isn't always better. Anyone who's seen sweeping changes to former MMO's knows how easily tipped the balance can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Well, yes. Yes it did. It's currently one of the most successful MMO's available, handily overtaking World of Warcraft in terms of active players. Endwalker was an absolute gem, and a fitting finale to the Ascian saga, and we've even given some of the Twelve a kick in the backside. I'm not really sure what more you're asking for, or what you're implying. Can it be improved? Absolutely, but then so can anything. Does that make it bad? No, absolutely not.

    Then again, maybe my expectations are just more realistic and less grandiose. Perhaps I should dream bigger, but bigger isn't always better. Anyone who's seen sweeping changes to former MMO's knows how easily tipped the balance can be.
    And where are you getting the stats it has overtaken WoW as a whole? I could see if you are counting Retail and Classic separately but they share a subscription fee thus one payment gets you access to both each month and they should be counted together. Again I would just want data here to prove it as it is hard to fathom between two games somehow one is beating them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    And where are you getting the stats it has overtaken WoW as a whole? I could see if you are counting Retail and Classic separately but they share a subscription fee thus one payment gets you access to both each month and they should be counted together. Again I would just want data here to prove it as it is hard to fathom between two games somehow one is beating them.
    It's very difficult to get solid numbers for both games considering neither of them release that information publicly. All we have is skewed attempts done by the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Well, yes. Yes it did. It's currently one of the most successful MMO's available, handily overtaking World of Warcraft in terms of active players. Endwalker was an absolute gem, and a fitting finale to the Ascian saga, and we've even given some of the Twelve a kick in the backside. I'm not really sure what more you're asking for, or what you're implying. Can it be improved? Absolutely, but then so can anything. Does that make it bad? No, absolutely not.

    Then again, maybe my expectations are just more realistic and less grandiose. Perhaps I should dream bigger, but bigger isn't always better. Anyone who's seen sweeping changes to former MMO's knows how easily tipped the balance can be.
    I don't feel it was a good end to the Ascian saga since it really feels like that whole thing was pushed aside in the first half of the expansion to focus on this entirely new concept of dynamis and our new 11th hour villain. For all the years we spent playing up the importance of Hydaelyn and Zodiark they were brushed aside so easily and quickly that they really felt more like side content than the entire focus of the narrative for 4 expansions.
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