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    Well yeah you don’t announce stuff during pre-production really square had the issue of announcing stuff well too soon. Also how did it affect things? It was in dev during stormblood yet the game kept growing and had all the content types you lot have been parroting about wanting in Endwalker and going through Covid yet it was fine. Come on now

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    "You're not happy because the devs aren't giving you anything, and you're asking for the devs to give you a little, which means you wouldn't be happy if the devs gave you even more than you asked for."

    Backwards logic
    It’s more seeing how some people have a bee under their bonnet and it wouldn’t matter how transparent a company was and honest they would still believe they’re being done over. Can’t comment on this scenario we are in but it’s how it really comes across it’s so black and white rather then people thinking more openly how development and design work and finite resources is all
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    We're lucky we're told anything to be honest. I mean, I've known/played games that didn't release any information about anything until a week before they released it. Mostly due to fear of player backlash if they couldn't release content on schedule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    We're lucky we're told anything to be honest. I mean, I've known/played games that didn't release any information about anything until a week before they released it. Mostly due to fear of player backlash if they couldn't release content on schedule.
    "we're lucky"

    as if we are not paying a monthly subscription to play this game lmao, I didnt know FFXIV went free to play, when did that happen ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    "we're lucky"

    as if we are not paying a monthly subscription to play this game lmao, I didnt know FFXIV went free to play, when did that happen ?
    What I mean is we do at least have some idea of what content is incoming, as opposed to knowing absolutely nothing until seven days before it is released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    More open communication with the dev team would be greatly appreciated. It's very hard to put any trust or faith in them when they refuse to keep us updated on what they're working on and whether they've heard our feedback. I'd personally be much more lenient with them if we could get a "we've heard your complaints, we're working on a solution, here's our ideas so far" every once in a while.
    I would even prefer a "we hear your feedback but we don't agree" over the silence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I hope they don't, and instead give SAM a better Kenki button that's not as boring as Shinten and Kaiten. People complain about things getting dumbed down, and yet they beg for a boring button to return just because the current state of SAM is even more boring. How about instead of begging the devs to bring Kaiten back, we ask them to make interesting buttons?



    You know for a fact that if the devs bring Kaiten back as it was, that these people will be doing exactly that.
    Get out AwesomeJr. Your not allowed to have anymore opinions while drunk with this statement. I dont think mom and dad would like to hear how you've insulted Kaiten
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    If they are working in something else, they will tell it when they are ready to it. Also, working on FFXVI and FFXIV at the same time while still maintain FFXI is already a lot of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    If they are working in something else, they will tell it when they are ready to it. Also, working on FFXVI and FFXIV at the same time while still maintain FFXI is already a lot of work.
    True, for such a small indie company as Square Enix, they must really be overworked, have you considered making a gofundme for them so we can fund them to have a bigger team ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    True, for such a small indie company as Square Enix, they must really be overworked, have you considered making a gofundme for them so we can fund them to have a bigger team ?
    I mention CBU3 which is one division of the current 4 they have now. THe CB1 which is Kitase team is with FFVII remake and Kinfdom Hearts 4, the CB2 which I don´t know who lead is Dragon Quest stuff and Nier and Octopath /Bravely Default and that. The CBU3 with FFXIV FFXVI and FFXI. and the CBU4 which I think only handles remasters, ports and that.

    Also, Yoshida mentioned he want to make a new IP totally new. So, that's a posibility. It is obvious they work in more things that they say, but a sevice game will still need content and support, so they work in that too at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CStrife912 View Post
    Well yeah you don’t announce stuff during pre-production really square had the issue of announcing stuff well too soon. Also how did it affect things? It was in dev during stormblood yet the game kept growing and had all the content types you lot have been parroting about wanting in Endwalker and going through Covid yet it was fine. Come on now



    It’s more seeing how some people have a bee under their bonnet and it wouldn’t matter how transparent a company was and honest they would still believe they’re being done over. Can’t comment on this scenario we are in but it’s how it really comes across it’s so black and white rather then people thinking more openly how development and design work and finite resources is all
    Stormblood was in development during Heavensward. It would have affected the next expansion which…gasp, is Shadowbringers, the expansion with the least amount of content. And before people scream “omg covid.” Let’s not forget they had literally stated before the expansion even came out that we wouldn’t have things like hildibrand, they were taking away dungeons, no allied beast tribe quest final quest, no deep dungeon etc. Looking back that was the biggest sign lol.
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