4-month patch cycle was a lie. It's almost 4.5 months now.

[Seraphor]

Am I supposed to be bothered?

It's not as if I'm sat here twiddling my thumbs for those extra 10 days each patch cycle.

[Atelier-Bagur]

So why are you immediately jumping to hyperboles and claim that we want to make this game another Lost Ark or D4?

Because that's what it sounds like. Grinds are specific activities that you spam over and over again and that is not fun. I want activities that over variation and are easily achievable. Me having to do a dungeon or a raid multiple times is not my idea of fun

[Deo14]

Because that's what it sounds like. Grinds are specific activities that you spam over and over again and that is not fun. I want activities that over variation and are easily achievable. Me having to do a dungeon or a raid multiple times is not my idea of fun

Please, you need to help me out and tell me what comment made you think that. I re-read whole thread, I still cannot find any post where anyone said something that remotely sounds like they want Lost Ark level of grind. Just send a quote of it so that we're on the same page and can potentially discuss something.

And if you want activities which are easily achievable, then for like 4th time, dungeons, trials, V&C, whatever, any EW content that isn't savage falls into this category. Is that not enough for you?

[Nebelheim]

Please, you need to help me out and tell me what comment made you think that. I re-read whole thread, I still cannot find any post where anyone said something that remotely sounds like they want Lost Ark level of grind. Just send a quote of it so that we're on the same page and can potentially discuss something.

And if you want activities which are easily achievable, then for like 4th time, dungeons, trials, V&C, whatever, any EW content that isn't savage falls into this category. Is that not enough for you?

Exactly there is already so much content that is casual and doesnt require massive grinds/timesinks there is no reason to deny a grind that last at least the duration of a 4 month patch

[Atelier-Bagur]

"How dare people suggest grinds in a genre known for grinds go play others games and stay out of my game." Im so sorry for wanting a mmo to play like a mmo and not want it to play like a single player ff game.

Funny that this sentiment is what those other playerbases have been criticizing for. I'm sure if they saw your comment they'd roll their eyes over how shortsighted it is.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Exactly there is already so much content that is casual and doesnt require massive grinds/timesinks there is no reason to deny a grind that last at least the duration of a 4 month patch

No content in the history of this game has ever lasted for that long.

[Jojoya]

Why is “I don’t like the direction of the game and want to make a valid complaint” never an option for you people

It’s

1) suck it up

2) leave

Do you understand how customer feedback works, we are the customer here

We're the customer, but we're not in charge. Square Enix is. They make the decisions.

Our power as a customer is to pay for products/services we like and feel give us value for our money. It is also to stop paying for products/services that don't meet our standards. It is our money that influences the provider in the end, not our words.

By all means leave feedback when you're unhappy with a product/service. Repeating that same feedback multiple times a week for several weeks isn't more effective than leaving it once them moving on to other things.

It also seems like a strange place to leave feedback when many posters are convinced that SE pays no attention the NA forums at all. There are other avenues for providing feedback and they don't require having an active paid subscription.

I know that WoW is an annoying subject around here but the WoD flying fiasco is an excellent example of the power that players have when they unite and cancel their subscription. That's when developers will take notice of the feedback that has been given all along. That is when change players feel is needed will happen.


You've left your feedback here in the forums. It's time for the next step. Unsub. Get your friends who feel the same way to unsub. Get them to get their other friends who feel the same way to unsub. Reach out to those who connect with other players across the world who feel the same way and get them to unsub. Keep leaving your feedback on social media, on Twitch, on YouTube, on other platforms that won't censor your opinion. You don't need an active subscription to leave feedback in those places.

Unite to create a single loud voice that SE can't avoid hearing if you are serious about your concerns. Together you can make a difference.

Either they announce changes for 7.0 that will satisfy everyone that it will be worth returning to the game.

Or they don't, and all of you will know that this truly is no longer the game for you.

[Nebelheim]

No content in the history of this game has ever lasted for that long.

I been playing since arr released and back then things did last an entire patch. Some of the relic steps took me an entire patch to finish and i was going pretty hardcore on it back then. You seem very combative towards suggestions of people wanting actual grinds and acusing people of wanting lost ark and diablo levels of grinds.

[Dal_and_Sent]

I been playing since arr released and back then things did last an entire patch. Some of the relic steps took me an entire patch to finish and i was going pretty hardcore on it back then. You seem very combative towards suggestions of people wanting actual grinds and acusing people of wanting lost ark and diablo levels of grinds.

I don't know. I'm not really sure that the Hildibrand relic weapons are anywhere near as popular as the ones for previous expansions. I certainly wouldn't want to play through a daily grind for months in order to get one.

[Avoidy]

"Just play other games if you don't like it."

*players pull their subscriptions and quit enmasse, game's marketboard grinds to a halt taking incentive to craft with it, queues die, vicious cycle of friends quitting because their friends quit, causing their friends to also quit, once active community based free companies dry up, towns and cities are emptier and less enticing to free trial players who also can't do anything on their own (make a party, send /tells, etc.) except queue up and cry when it takes so long that they have to use Trusts in a multiplayer game, and the cbu3 boys are forced to sit down with the shareholders and explain why their cash money cow lost 30% of their player base in a month and a half*

"W-Wait no, not like that haha"

The grind until Summer 2024 is gonna be rough if we're not getting regular events to tide us over, that's all I'm saying. I'm already mentally prepping to lose my house 'cause once I do the new alliance raid in 6.5 there won't be any reason to justify 15 a month for 9ish months of no content. That's 135 dollars I could've spent on 2 nice games, or a really sick keyboard, or a new pair of headphones or something.