The New Job (If Any) Added In 7.0 Will Likely Be Scouting Melee DPS

[Rychu]

This is why I highly doubt we'll get 2x DPS in an expansion.

Oh I know you are punching air right now man xD. Can't wait for the insane queue times in Dawntrail

[Renathras]

Oh I know you are punching air right now man xD. Can't wait for the insane queue times in Dawntrail

I mean, I'm a Healer main. /shrug

I just think it's dumb. We already have done this, arguably twice - 2.4 with NIN and all of 4.X with SB. But if they want to make perma 45+ DPS ques, I don't care, I just think it's dumb.

I said I highly doubt it, not that it was impossible. If they want to go the stupid route...well, I'll see you in DF. I'll be on my 5th dungeon when your que finally pops.

EDIT:

Lol, lmao even

I mean, the jokes on you trying to que at all this expansion. /shrug

I admit, I did not see that coming.
It's surprising and disappointing to have yet another melee DPS back to back but not a tank.

MeleeTrail let's go.

Yup.

Where everyone's Melee and ques take forever.

...well, unless you're a Healer/Tank. If so, enjoy instant ques for two years. : )

[Lyth]

This sort of thing affects queue times initially less than you think, because the player shifts tends to occur within roles rather than across them. It's slower when people get around to levelling their second jobs, of course, because that's when everyone (including tanks and healers) goes to try the new ones out.

[vetch]

R.I.P. to all the ninjas that finally have to share alliance raid and dungeon drops, I guess.

[Raikai]

R.I.P. to all the ninjas that finally have to share alliance raid and dungeon drops, I guess.

On the flipside... Cheer to all the ninjas who now might have an alt job to play!

[Agarthas]

next job will be a Hammer Stunder strike job..
why ?? because the tshirt refer form the movie where MC Hammet make the gimmic soundratck
https://youtu.be/oZxajc3IHTM

[Renathras]

This sort of thing affects queue times initially less than you think, because the player shifts tends to occur within roles rather than across them. It's slower when people get around to levelling their second jobs, of course, because that's when everyone (including tanks and healers) goes to try the new ones out.

You know, I've heard this, but I once went through the WayBackMachine's various records of FFXIV census' numbers, and that wasn't really the case. New Jobs added to roles does seem to change the distribution of players. The bigger issue, though, is that it changes the distribution of ques. For example, more Jobs within a role means people leveling multiple Jobs within a role (a pretty common thing; I've had at least two Healers I leveled to max in every expansion starting in 2.X itself, and I've had every Healer Job at max level since ShB. This means players will be quing up more as a given role if they're leveling additional Jobs for it.

So even if we take at face value the claim that people playing new Jobs within a role were already playing the role and were not people coming over from different roles (which isn't the case, but let's pretend), that still doesn't change the que time effect.

Again, we've done this twice before, 2.4 and 4.X, and both times, DPS ques went through the roof. In ShB, there did seem to be more people quing as Tank - you can argue if it's new Tanks or just existing Tanks leveling more blue Jobs, but the effect was the same. Healer was consistently the bottleneck in ShB. in EW, things evened out a bit since we got a new Healer Job.

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But no need to take my analysis for it. Or history showing it having happened before. In 12 months, you'll see it for yourself.

[Alex1337]

Relax guys there’s still time for them to listen to feedback and not introduce another me- who am I kidding?

[Reinha]

It will be scouting and caster.

Nailed it.

[Lyth]

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I actually did happen to swap from Tank to Melee this expansion and levelled RPR as my starting 90 job for Endwalker. There were no problems with the levelling process. You need to remember that if players are truly serious about switching to a new job, they will probably reach max level well before a lot of other people manage ten levels on their existing job, even the ones playing support.

If you have an interest in either of the new jobs in Dawntrail, your main goal out of the gate should be to pull ahead of the levelling pack. Once you get to level 90 it will be a non-issue anyways, because the MSQ will likely have enough EXP in it to take you to 100 even without having to do any grinding. And it's not like the dungeons are a hard gate, either. If there's no queue pop (which usually happens on the later dungeons because you get there before everyone else!) you'll probably be able to brute force it with a trust just to keep moving.

The only people who get stuck are the ones who want to level another job first and figure that they'll offspec to one of the new jobs just to dabble in the experience. I deliberately put RDM and DNC at the very end of my list of jobs to level when they were released, simply because I had no intention on doing them first. If you're in, you're all in.