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    Renathras's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimr View Post
    something more along the lines of bozja but eureka hell no. It is unsoloable and unfuture proofed. It would be nice if it was diverse like 3.0 relic.
    What are you talking about? Eureka is more future-proofed than Bozja. The only thing you need a group for is BA, and it's not super hard to find them - 4 YEARS later. The entire rest of Eureka can be done solo if you want to, especially with the +300% Echo buff. And you don't need BA for the Relic/Armor. The "super-final" stage that requires BA doesn't change the appearance and the only thing it does is add Eureka-specific stats, something meaningless to you if you don't like and want to continue engaging with Eureka.

    Bozja is far worse in terms of futureproofing since it has both CLL and BA and Dal as bottlenecks, and they're further bottlenecks to the Relics as well, since the only alternative to get the parts for those steps are PotD and HoH with low drop rates, which are hard to solo as well (it's the higher floors that have decent drop rates for them, and you can't random que for those).

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    As has been said, one of the most critical points about developing this content is the one simple fact that after its relevance has passed it is a DEAD ZONE. Virtually no one uses it. A few discords and a few PF parties maybe, but to all intents and purposes it is empty.
    Except it isn't.

    Whenever I hop into Eureka, I see people in it. Same with Bozja. If you play on peak times, you will often see >40 and sometimes >100 people in those zones. While it does happen that there are times it is less, in the case of Eureka, we're talking 4 year old content (Hydatos) or even older than that (Anemos) still being pretty well used.

    How many people did you see running Eden 3 normal last week?

    Content, in general, decays over time. But Eureka in particular has had incredible longevity due to the dedicated community and unique nature of it. Bozja was less popular, but is still pretty well played. Compare that to raids released during that time and you'll see that your argument would more support removing/stopping adding raid content than it does not having Exploration content.

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    Not all content is for everyone, that's true. But that's WHY you have different kinds of content - for the people that enjoy it.

    I've never done an Ultimate, yet they spend massive Dev resources on those every expansion.

    I don't have a Static, so I don't do Savages. I've done 3 at level and maybe 9-10 total clears across those three fights.

    Does this mean they should stop adding Ultimates and Savages?

    No, of course not - because some people like that content, even if people drop it like a rock as soon as the next major patch comes out. Compared to that, Eureka/Bozja are FAR better content with FAR more longevity.

    Also: In case you were unaware (somehow?), Eureka has the Echo.

    Did you really not know this? Go zone into Eureka right now. Mouse over your buffs. See that Echo there? It has the very thing you say it doesn't have.

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    So yes, we DO need another exploration zone set.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 07-29-2023 at 02:38 PM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
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    For once I'm actually in agreement with Ren here.

    Eureka is still plenty active in peak hours (otherwise you'll see bunny farmers mostly, which is a reason to go in there regardless. On top of the items to enhance your..Aetherical wheel? for more power/defense,. You also have the gil gains from the bunny fates. on TOP of getting relics. I've occasionally been able to get groups even outside of peak hours.

    and Bozja will never die for very good reason, and what I think is the best boon it has to offer outside of relics: Leveling. Being able to level there assures that newer players who are currently leveling jobs WILL have an engaging place to grind exp at even if they have no interest in relics. This isn't even mentioning cluster farming, which is a suitable, and easy, method of making gil through the exchange.

    I personally much prefer Eureka between the two. To top this off, you can do eureka solo without doing NM's. The challenge log ensures this. It's slower, but when you want to tackle it at your own pace that makes the comfort room for this content that much bigger.
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    Last edited by Zairava; 07-29-2023 at 02:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
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    We may have our differences Ren but this is all 100% facts.

    Eureka is by far the longest standing piece of content that has not fallen from relevance past its expansion's expiry date.

    People don't like it, because you have to play the game to get rewarded. And they will argue forever that it is dead content when it is far from it, it is by far one of the most active zones in post-patch downtime, Even on Materia you can get people to do BA 2-3 times a week from the content achievers discord.
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