They won't bother. Just like they didn't bother explaining how some old dude with a stillbirth serpent could easily kick our asses in Shadowbringers until he couldn't any more.

They won't bother. Just like they didn't bother explaining how some old dude with a stillbirth serpent could easily kick our asses in Shadowbringers until he couldn't any more.




Explain to me why a random bird in Thavnair is stronger than the Ultima Weapon, then we can figure out power levels.


as long as they don't do another Zenos, where a guy comes out of nowhere and crush you like an insect after you defeated several ascians and a dragon from the first brood that even death couldn't defeat, making everything you've done up until then irrevelant, I'm fine.




To be fair, we've never defeated an Unsundered without a plot device. We had literal divine intervention with Lahabrea at the Praetorium (especially after it was redone, where he outright kills the player until Hydaelyn steps in), Nidhogg's Eye at the Aetherochemical Research Facility, the overpowering Light of the Lightwardens against Hades, and Azem's crystal to summon backup for Hades and Elidibus. We also had Hraesvelgr's Eye to help fight Nidhogg.




I don't think the stakes will be all that high tbh, and I'm fine with that. Would be a bit silly trying to immediately one-up the potential end of the universe.
Also, the WoL is pretty much the peak of sundered mortals, but they are still a sundered mortal. They would still (theoretically) die if you shot them in the head/stabbed them in the heart/whatevered them in the whatever.




Trying to gauge power levels / lore power progression in an MMO is a fools errand.
Azem's crystal wasn't used during the battle with Hades, that was G'raha's summoning spell.To be fair, we've never defeated an Unsundered without a plot device. We had literal divine intervention with Lahabrea at the Praetorium (especially after it was redone, where he outright kills the player until Hydaelyn steps in), Nidhogg's Eye at the Aetherochemical Research Facility, the overpowering Light of the Lightwardens against Hades, and Azem's crystal to summon backup for Hades and Elidibus. We also had Hraesvelgr's Eye to help fight Nidhogg.
Logically speaking we peaked in power after killing the giant world destroying dragon and have just had minor increases in power ever since. For gameplay purposes though you just gotta suspend your disbelief, otherwise you're going to go around in circles trying to figure out how Fluffy Bunny from the final area can beat Bahamut without breaking a sweat.


I am actually not talking about the levels and stats and all that. Ofc to give us a pure ingame progression that stuff always needs to keep up getting higher.Logically speaking we peaked in power after killing the giant world destroying dragon and have just had minor increases in power ever since. For gameplay purposes though you just gotta suspend your disbelief, otherwise you're going to go around in circles trying to figure out how Fluffy Bunny from the final area can beat Bahamut without breaking a sweat.
What i am talking about is story wise. We are cramped full of aether and dynamis and whatnot and defeated even the end of the universe. So if they now present to us a new Zenos/Rhanjit etc. who just beats us over the whole expansion it is just not really believable anymore. Storywise that is. From a pure gameplay perspective ofc it always makes sense cause if we could obliterate mobs with one hit that wouldn't be fun.


Which will likely be the case here. Sure we could murderhobo our way through everything, but that'll just cause more problems. So we'll just spend most of the expansion, after figuring out who the main enemy is, convincing the people that said enemy needs a good murdering before we do it.
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