Variant dungeons are actually boring

[Shurrikhan]

But you're not a troll so we can take your opinion with a bit more seriousness. Its hard to decern whats legit and whats not with this user and their alts. Im not saying there isn't issues but it comes across as disingenuous from this user is all.

Is it just me or is it actually... pretty darn easy to tell when a Gaius-of-a-thousand-faces post is purely trolling or not?

He doesn't exactly hide his shifts in tone/attitude, and what few true bait/trap threads he(? honestly, those ones were harder to tell) started were pretty clearly so.

Or, more simply put, you can go into damn near any of these Skiros/Gaius/etc. threads that'd seem remotely serious and, sure enough, simply read the topic as/for what it is, rather than as some elaborate scheme to twist player opinion. If it's written sarcastically or with the sole intent to inflame, the OP will make that obvious very quickly.

[Pratini]

I agree

[ZephyrMenodora]

I'd rather have Variant and Criterion. Dungeons are lifeless and boring hallways. Variant makes me pay attention and rewards exploration somewhat and Criterion has actual threatening enemies between(!!) bosses. What a novel concept. lol

Well for me and many players we’d get way more use out of more roulette variety than these. Haven’t touched these at all and based on the rewards have no reason to.

Wonder what the engagement rate of these are. Probably low from what I’ve seen.

[Lefanis]

meh, they just feel like regular dungeons

[ZephyrMenodora]

Is it just me or is it actually... pretty darn easy to tell when a Gaius-of-a-thousand-faces post is purely trolling or not?

He doesn't exactly hide his shifts in tone/attitude, and what few true bait/trap threads he(? honestly, those ones were harder to tell) started were pretty clearly so.

Or, more simply put, you can go into damn near any of these Skiros/Gaius/etc. threads that'd seem remotely serious and, sure enough, simply read the topic as/for what it is, rather than as some elaborate scheme to twist player opinion. If it's written sarcastically or with the sole intent to inflame, the OP will make that obvious very quickly.

Sure he may have some trollish topics but I don’t see anything wrong with discussing this feature. He finds them boring. At least he did them. I can’t even find a reason to spend time on these after the less than glowing reviews and reward lists I’ve seen.

[Kaurhz]

On the first point, I am definitely inclined to agree, it would be nice if there were some additional dynamics involved with the parts between the bosses, if some trash actually had mechanics, especially the filler trash, e.g., NOT the Apa which you need to burn down, or let live, depending.

I don't mind the second point of this for Variant (Normal ver.) since they are to a degree meant to act as a sort of 'vehicle' for exploring the dungeon, rather than something to burn through.

It would be nice if the first boss had more variance, or if each separate route had a separate first boss. There's not a great enough variance between mechanics and 'design' for it to really be impactful at all.

A greater number of lost actions would be nice, but then in the same vein if it changes job dynamic, e.g., how you might play a particular job. But anything further is... It would feel like the encounters need to then be designed around having a certain set of actions - Either that or they just are inconsequential.

Delubrum Normal was fun the first time that was all. Trinity Avowed was a nice boss with the Hot & Cold mechanic. But otherwise it got very boring and uninteresting after a few turns. I wouldn't really call Delubrum any more or less interesting than Variant, frankly - But different strokes for different folks.

It would be nice if they could cycle their content a bit more, rather than having this expansion as, say, exclusively variant dungeons, cycle it so it has a variant/criterion, and then a large-scale raid like Delubrum and then back to Criterion/Variant, just to give themselves a chance to actually reflect on how to make the content better without it needing to span several expansions like always. - They do have a habit of finding something new and 'innovative' and then spamming it over and over.

[Rufalus]

It bugs me how the enemies are complete passive when you're standing right next to them. When the npc ally catches up and triggers the event, they suddenly go apeshit as if you've just arrived. Just a peculiarity of this game being scripted to a fault. If you frame the variant dungeons as an upgrade over normal dungeons then they are successful in that sense. They changed one linear path for a few, which is interesting for a few additional days.

[kpxmanifesto]

This is another TitanmanII troll thread. He probably hasn't even played them.


Gladly!

I don't doubt it at all, lmao.

[Renalt]

I wish we could disregard your post and you and your alts for that matter but alas we have to keep enduring you being about because you have nothing better to do. Do you not get remotely tired keeping up this facade? You know you make some small decent points here and there but in the end I can't take them seriously due to how you act everywhere else...makes a point, sometimes gets debunked but cherry picks quotes or alters them and moves the goalposts.



But you're not a troll so we can take your opinion with a bit more seriousness. Its hard to decern whats legit and whats not with this user and their alts. Im not saying there isn't issues but it comes across as disingenuous from this user is all.

He will never disappear as long as people give him attention. You know what? I'm literally crazy to think people will ever learn. Why do I bother warning you people? I got better things to do with my time. I'm not doing this anymore. I have way more fun threads to waste my post limit on.

Enjoy feeding the trolls.

[Supersnow845]

They need to be put in their own roulette, as it stands right now for me they are better than regular dungeons (a low low bar to clear) but you have no incentive to return once you have cleared them (even clearing all 12 paths is debatable if it’s even worth it) and the game doesn’t have any systems to make you want to return so they are just kinda there

As it stands I love how solo’ing these is just another way to show us how bad current healers are but that’s an argument I’ve spent way too long arguing