7.0 MMO to a Single Player Game

[caffe_macchiato]

A ton of people love the concept of turning FFXIV into a single-player game. Many of them came from WoW and are still firmly attached to having that as their “main game”. So FFXIV, to them, is just a single player RPG to blow through during a content lull. And FFXIV also has something that WoW doesn’t: a strong Second Life-esque dating sim whereby you can create and sell your own outfits, skins, and even entirely new races, mounts and minions. You can even sell services like IRL photos and “adult time” in Discord, as many currently do in Party Finder.

Nowhere, in all of that, is the MMO that existed from 2013-2021. And that’s fine! Because there are other, better games we should be playing. Just destroy FFXIV so that we can have time for our other games.

7.0 is going to be the worst expac, by design: it’ll get people to wean off of FFXIV, play other SE titles, and lead Yoshida into retirement as he’s always planned. Sucks for fans to be treated as disposable, but it’s Square Enix, everyone knows how it is by now.

[Ayer2015]

what do you consider "rather old"?

Old enough to have life responsibilities making sitting in front of a PC all day unlikely. I stopped raiding in MMOs simply because I don't have the time I want to dedicate to a static.

If solo play options are available, it doesn't mean people still can't group up if they want to.

[Kes13a]

Old enough to have life responsibilities making sitting in front of a PC all day unlikely. I stopped raiding in MMOs simply because I don't have the time I want to dedicate to a static.

If solo play options are available, it doesn't mean people still can't group up if they want to.

in some cultures that "life responsibility" can start pre 16 years old. I know what the concept is, I just want to know what they term as "rather old" since it sounds like blaming the solo direction on almost retirees. most people out of high school have responsibilities, one of the dubious joys of "adulting" means you make life choices such as... "I wanna game tonight". also means that you can decide if you want a single player game or an mmo.

reality is that people pushing for solo content often say its because of "responsibilities" because that sounds better than they simply do not want to play with others in a game designed to ...play with others. really they want the company to conform to their preferred play style, no different than hard core players want the difficulty ramped way up to suite their preferences, or pvpers want pvp expanded to open world... but making it seem like they are simply being "responsible adults" doesnt make their need for more solo content sound that bad or self centered. (and no, I am not a teen, I fall well into the "rather old" category and even have a child and work full time, I am just able to make time to game and enjoy the friends I have made online through doing things with other people)

[DefaultMiqote]

I like having trusts to do the later MSQ trials! They take a really long time to fill when I try to queue for them with players!

[Elkanah]

If it becomes even more of a single player game ill probably spend more time in ff11 for a mmo fix and spend less time on this game.

That's why I continue to keep my ffxi subscription lol. And getting stuff done in between when Im done capping tomes for the week (or doing raids in xiv)

[PaulH]

A ton of people love the concept of turning FFXIV into a single-player game. Many of them came from WoW and are still firmly attached to having that as their “main game”. So FFXIV, to them, is just a single player RPG to blow through during a content lull. And FFXIV also has something that WoW doesn’t: a strong Second Life-esque dating sim whereby you can create and sell your own outfits, skins, and even entirely new races, mounts and minions. You can even sell services like IRL photos and “adult time” in Discord, as many currently do in Party Finder.

Nowhere, in all of that, is the MMO that existed from 2013-2021. And that’s fine! Because there are other, better games we should be playing. Just destroy FFXIV so that we can have time for our other games.

7.0 is going to be the worst expac, by design: it’ll get people to wean off of FFXIV, play other SE titles, and lead Yoshida into retirement as he’s always planned. Sucks for fans to be treated as disposable, but it’s Square Enix, everyone knows how it is by now.

Heh, that actually is quite sobering and true, it is not the game of the past, you're right and it feel sad but hey Baldurs gate 3 is nearly here as I haven't touched it or watched anything and it is quite fun to get into new stuff.

[Renalt]

If it becomes even more single player than it already is...I'm 100% done. 7.0 will be the end for me. I won't be curious enough for 7.1.

I have cheaper single player games I can play that don't have subscriptions. Hell I have better MMOs that don't have subscriptions.

The only thing keeping me in the game is I wanna see what 7.0 is like. If it is anything less than stellar...I'm hanging up my bandana.

[Jeeqbit]

I think that 7.0 patches will see MSQ trials given Duty Support, so it is pretty likely that 7.0 trials will have it from the start. We should find out at Fan Fest later this month.

I genuinely dont think they are dumbing down dungeons so that trusts can do them. There is just no way trust AI couldnt have handled the elemental towers in castrum abania.

I agree that in Castrum Abania it changed because many people didn't know the mechanic and never figured it out, so they would take an extreme amount of damage that other people did not or the party would wipe.

If you look at all the changes over the course of this expansion, you will notice one thing about the most extensive changes, which is that they make mechanics intuitive (aka obvious). They want a new player to figure them out immediately, instead of still being confused after the fight is over and dying to things they don't understand.

We can argue they should read status effects, and that was SE's mindset in Heavensward and ARR, but it doesn't seem to be anymore.

[Nebelheim]

That's why I continue to keep my ffxi subscription lol. And getting stuff done in between when Im done capping tomes for the week (or doing raids in xiv)

I keep mine also during slow periods

[IkaraGreydancer]

How many are actually doing things solo though? And they've only allowed trusts in trials once for narrative reasons. It made sense for all the Scion to fight that fight. The majority of the game will aways be more team based and its clear they design trusts to lag far behind actual players. I'm not worried