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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO View Post
    Oh I remember this, MandaloreGaming reviewed this dumpster fire

    Yea yea!
    Oop, nope. Guess I was wrong. Unfortunate, but it looked so similar...

    Anyway, this is a really tragic person, and I really do empathize with them, being somewhat of a reformed edgelord myself.

    It's kinda sad actually, because I really do think it's a good recipe for some philosophical musings, and there is a conversation that could be made for Meteion/Endsinger actually being objectively correct considering the circumstances of Dead Ends or the horrifying nature of things like The Great Filter, at least before they did the Beast Tribes and a galactic conflict that ended no less than three civilizations, whether from eternal threats (Omicrons) or internal strife (Karelians) and eternal nihilism were solved by going to Space Starbucks with your mortal enemies.

    It's just not the best that based on their previous posts we can't have that conversation of Endsinger being right, at least not in this thread, because no one here is going to take this person seriously. I think Endsinger is based, personally.

    Stay in therapy and stay medicated. It's for the best. The alternative isn't better, in my opinion. Also, please stop making alts to come back here for your own sake, you are easily memed on, and it's just not worth your time or the mental load. I doubt you're trolling, because you're too committed to the bit. Like, take care of yourself, seriously.
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    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    It's just not the best that based on their previous posts we can't have that conversation of Endsinger being right, at least not in this thread, because no one here is going to take this person seriously. I think Endsinger is based, personally.
    I find Endsinger insane - particularly her deciding for an entire planet/universe that they don't deserve life and that their lives have no meaning. Nothing based about genocidal conclusions to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    Oop, nope. Guess I was wrong. Unfortunate, but it looked so similar...

    Anyway, this is a really tragic person, and I really do empathize with them, being somewhat of a reformed edgelord myself.

    It's kinda sad actually, because I really do think it's a good recipe for some philosophical musings, and there is a conversation that could be made for Meteion/Endsinger actually being objectively correct considering the circumstances of Dead Ends or the horrifying nature of things like The Great Filter, at least before they did the Beast Tribes and a galactic conflict that ended no less than three civilizations, whether from eternal threats (Omicrons) or internal strife (Karelians) and eternal nihilism were solved by going to Space Starbucks with your mortal enemies.

    It's just not the best that based on their previous posts we can't have that conversation of Endsinger being right, at least not in this thread, because no one here is going to take this person seriously. I think Endsinger is based, personally.

    Stay in therapy and stay medicated. It's for the best. The alternative isn't better, in my opinion. Also, please stop making alts to come back here for your own sake, you are easily memed on, and it's just not worth your time or the mental load. I doubt you're trolling, because you're too committed to the bit. Like, take care of yourself, seriously.
    Lol wait what? You think I am an alt?

    I did it reddit!

    But in serious honesty, being edgy and brooding and thinking that the importance of a character that you never felt to build a relationship with not counting as a death poll and having that viewpoint in RL is not a good mindset. This is a forum about gaming, people don't want to feel bummed down we don't want talk about killing ourselves or offing others lives and talk how society is a cold, dark, dreary reality. People like that need to search for help, speading "edge" can hurt someone mentally.
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    Last edited by OM3GA-Z3RO; 07-12-2023 at 02:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noox-115 View Post
    With all honesty I don't give a damn about Meteion but when we fight her and the scions do go go go power of friendship crap it felt so cringe like really that's all ? 10 years for the end of the story to be beaten so easily because for like 30%-40% of the fight she just get beaten to death. I felt 0 achievement from this fight, no feeling what so ever. Hades was cool because almost everyone could have died everyone struggle. Warrior of Light was cool because it had goals , a meaning and it felt like an actual threat. But Meteion apparently you just have to be "Eh it's fine im not scared" and she dies pitifully
    Avengers: Endgame was the Power of Friendship, too. I’m not joking. If you were to play Toy Story’s song “You’ve Got a Friend In Me” when the Marvel montage plays right before Endgame starts, leading into Tony Stark sitting there looking at pictures, you’ll definitely see that Avengers is all about the Power of Friendship because Thanos had no true friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    Avengers: Endgame was the Power of Friendship, too.
    Mass media story that tries to appeal to all ages is bland and childish.

    I just described Marvel & FFXIV btw
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    Avengers: Endgame was the Power of Friendship, too. I’m not joking. If you were to play Toy Story’s song “You’ve Got a Friend In Me” when the Marvel montage plays right before Endgame starts, leading into Tony Stark sitting there looking at pictures, you’ll definitely see that Avengers is all about the Power of Friendship because Thanos had no true friends.
    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Mass media story that tries to appeal to all ages is bland and childish.

    I just described Marvel & FFXIV btw
    Marvel movies are at least visually stunning and have some cool moments. Can we really say the same about EW?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO View Post
    Lol wait what? You think I am an alt?

    I did it reddit!
    No, not you! The OP! The one who we are concerned about!

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I find Endsinger insane - particularly her deciding for an entire planet/universe that they don't deserve life and that their lives have no meaning. Nothing based about genocidal conclusions to me.
    Okay, let me defend myself before I sound too insane, that was probably the worst way I could have worded that. I do think Endsinger is wrong in the method. Forced omnicide is no good. At this point, I've really prescribed to the theory that even if a world is doomed, and cannot be saved, it is still the responsibility of a sentient being to document and record the downfall so that they are not entirely erased to the sands of time. It was wrong for this responsibility to be forced upon the Meteia, and this is why I have sympathies for Meteion. Every funeral pyre needs someone to write an obituary, or those lives are lost in a way worse way than death, by being unrecorded as if they never existed. Kinda like the vaporization from 1984, but instead of a person, it's an entire civilization.

    I don't think her base ideology is flawed though, since most of life, as described by Venat, is filled of nothing but pure suffering. And life does not have any meaning on a universal scale in our or the Ultima Thule presentation of our reality, it's an aberration at best. Meaning is derived from the free will of the subject. Learning to accept that is critical to a positive interpretation of the nihilism that Meteion suffers from. I don't have an issue with her conclusion that existence is meaningless by default. I agree with it. I'm just okay with that, and make my decisions unburdened by the inevitable futility of their consequences. ie: Worry about who and what I can worry about, and take the rest as it comes, even if it cannot be stopped. This discrepancy in the conclusion is why I didn't have an issue killing Endsinger at the end of the plot, outside of "We will die if we don't." of course.

    Yeesh, okay, that does sound a little bit edgy, but I swear it's more acceptance.
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    Last edited by OdinelStarrei; 07-12-2023 at 03:49 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Marvel movies are at least visually stunning and have some cool moments. Can we really say the same about EW?
    When i asked what people who like EW liked about the story the great moments like going into space with the primals was mentioned multiple times. So in short: i think there are people who would say yes even though i'm not among them.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampireprincess69 View Post
    how can you disagree that it wasnt dark enough 95% of the scenes were jokes andd joy nonsense, and then with the time travel giving over 50 plot holes, and honestly endwalker outside of mention and emet-selch scenes and the fight with zenos ... was horrible

    there was way 2 much joy and happyness in this expansions s tory not enough suffering pain and perment death like at the very least y'shotla needs to die forever im getting sick of her being ass pulled alive...


    Seriosely my Vampire kisses, darkest power triology and the queen of the damnad storys are still far superior endwalker was really trashy story telling and needs 99.5% of the jokes removed and replaced with something dark and depressing and destruction


    literaly the worst story so far in the ffxiv series, arr good hw great, stormblood enjoyable as hell, shadowbrings was okay could do without all the white but endwalker isnt a end of the world like i ts suppose to be
    Its comedy nonsense and thats trashy thats why the hillsbrad quest are pure garbage to much comedy nonsense not enough dark and misery and suffering for the expansions theme
    You misunderstand, I disagree that Meteion was right. She wasn't, murdering the entire universe is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampireprincess69 View Post
    a. I dont like harry potter at all because the writer which i wont get into

    and b i am getting help i have to take meds and go to therpey 2x a week...


    while i still have this chance i do have one friend who i can talk to when she isnt busy and we ddo hang out alot because we have alot in common, i just idk I want to be able to be myself share my feelings and views without people being... nvm i could get into a large one discussion on that. however I play games for the same reason I read books like the summoning, vampire kisses for characters I can relate to. thats honestly normal your favoirt things are always what you relate to on some level.. also c. when i get a chance tonight would you like some more pictures wont have another chance till midnight so
    Ok but this is not a therapy forum, just stop posting and get irl help instead of being here for the love of god lol, and if you are getting irl help, then you have to understand how to behave on a video game forum, there are minors around here and you are being very inappropriate. You have already been told this a million times, do you need to get banned from the forums yet again on your new account for you to understand that you are not being appropriate ?
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