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    Nav_Fae's Avatar
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    I think the only thing I really dislike is that the power of friendship is starting to overstay it's welcomed. Especially with how big the friendship pool is expanding, and the amount of networking it contains within. The hero(s) can basically reach out to literally anyone anywhere because of that network strength. Irl, politicians don't even get along with each other like this. I'm also tired of the scions being a massive group of know-it-all bookworms that can single handily solve every wonder of the universe by themselves.
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    Kazek Amilia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    I'm also tired of the scions being a massive group of know-it-all bookworms that can single handily solve every wonder of the universe by themselves.
    My main issue with the Scions. They're just so homogenous, it doesn't make their friendship feel earned. They're just an echo chamber who agree on every single subject (which happens to be whatever the author at the time thinks is the correct moral answer), they never fight in meaningful ways, they almost all come from a single background. The one source of tension has been the same since HW: Urianger betrays them for the greater good. That's it.

    There's more going on with Cloud and Barett at the beginning of OG FFVII (or Zidane and Steiner in IX, or Wakka and everyone in X) than the Scions for the entire duration of XIV.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    There's more going on with Cloud and Barett at the beginning of OG FFVII than the Scions for the entire duration of XIV.
    Yeah. The same can be said of Zidane and Steiner in FFIX. Or Basch and Vaan in FFXII. Or Noctis and Gladio when they clash later on in FFXV.

    I found Zero interesting for all of five minutes. A character with a mercenary attitude who gave the impression of being someone who could help or hinder in equal measure intrigued me. It didn't take her very long to immediately be on board with the rest of the Scions and echo their views. Worst yet, any unique take she could have had due to being a former Voidsent was tossed aside in favour of having her lecture her former brethren. She's lucky enough to be the super special singular Voidsent who is purified and now acts as the equivalent of someone who just won the lottery heading to an isolated poor village and asking why the locals turn to banditry out of sheer desperation to feed themselves and their families.
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    Celestria Thurmand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    I think the only thing I really dislike is that the power of friendship is starting to overstay it's welcomed. Especially with how big the friendship pool is expanding, and the amount of networking it contains within. The hero(s) can basically reach out to literally anyone anywhere because of that network strength. Irl, politicians don't even get along with each other like this. I'm also tired of the scions being a massive group of know-it-all bookworms that can single handily solve every wonder of the universe by themselves.
    The Scions have really become walking examples of DMNPC's with +20 Knowledge of everything and if the players are stumped in what to do then the DMNPC just drops all the answers.

    I personally quit WoW because all the heroes are literal DMNPC's that always swoop in and steal your kill on almost every final boss of the expansion.

    Sure, here we actually kill the big bad ourselves but there is the issue that the DM is literally holding your hand and leading you to where you need to go to progress in the story with DMNPC's that gives you the answer to everything and has connections to very powerful people that is always willing to drop everything and help you.
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    I think the only thing I really dislike is that the power of friendship is starting to overstay it's welcomed. Especially with how big the friendship pool is expanding, and the amount of networking it contains within. The hero(s) can basically reach out to literally anyone anywhere because of that network strength. Irl, politicians don't even get along with each other like this. I'm also tired of the scions being a massive group of know-it-all bookworms that can single handily solve every wonder of the universe by themselves.
    PoF is a FF mainstay. Ive gotten use to that. And it took how long for the Scions to build those connections? It's taken them leagues of work to get to the point where their reach is so expansive so imo its fair n justified. Irl politicians don't get along like this, yeah I don't think irl politicians have to worry about an end of days or full blown wars using Eikons n such either.

    Yes many of the Scions are smart people. None of them are dumb ofc but I wouldn't call the WoL, Alisaie, Estinien or Thancred book worms. It's also just plain wrong to say they "single handed solve every wonder of the universe by themselves". When I see a statement like that it just comes off as hate to me. The biggest info dump about the universe as we know came from Elidibus sending us to Elpis and us spending loads of time there learning from the Ancients. That alone disproves your "single handed" comment. It took them a very long amount of time to solve tempering, in fact most of the story, ALSO with help from many many others. They still have not figured out a way to travel to the First yet and are slowly piecing together a possible solution again...with the help of others...
    I could go on and on.
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    Last edited by IkaraGreydancer; 07-09-2023 at 04:20 AM.