FF16 expansions/DLCs in the work? How will this affect FF14?

[Enkidoh]

So? Leviathan wasn't in FFVI either (although his place was taken by Bismarck). It was also not in FFXIV 1.0, but that was for a different reason.

Also FFXVI is a single-player game, expansions are never released for single-player FFs - XV had it's DLC side stories but that's an outlier. And I don't see any reason to think XVI is going to be any different.

[ZephyrMenodora]

So? Leviathan wasn't in FFVI either (although his place was taken by Bismarck). It was also not in FFXIV 1.0, but that was for a different reason.

Also FFXVI is a single-player game, expansions are never released for single-player FFs - XV had it's DLC side stories but that's an outlier. And I don't see any reason to think XVI is going to be any different.

I think what OP is getting at is Leviathan is in the lore in 16, but weirdly missing. There are supposed to be 8 elemental Eikons but Leviathan's didn't make it into the game. Whether they ran out of time, wrote out Leviathan, or are saving it for DLC is anyone's guess.

[CStrife912]

I think what OP is getting at is Leviathan is in the lore in 16, but weirdly missing. There are supposed to be 8 elemental Eikons but Leviathan's didn't make it into the game. Whether they ran out of time, wrote out Leviathan, or are saving it for DLC is anyone's guess.

Well considering OP is the troll again I’m surprised anyone is giving them light of day. DLC would take way less time to make and wouldn’t require the whole team again. Even with a pc port you don’t have to have the whole team to make it work it’s a smaller team. In regards to 14 it’s S-Es only cash cow they’re not going to screw that over. Devs shifting projects is good for their moral it’s probably why call of duty has gone into a hole of despair cause they make the same game day in day out year after year so they’re creatively bankrupt.

Hiring new people or building up their skills while the others worked on 16 is a good thing too they’re always hiring, heck look at the job listings they’re still recruiting now. I think they just wanted to spread their wings a bit with a single player entry after doing 11+ years of 14 and it gives them some fresh eyes and perspective to go back into 14. Even if they decide to make another project it would be 5-6 years away and not even in production till at least by the time of 14s next expansion after this in timeframe if we go with how long games can be in pre production etc.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Well considering OP is the troll again I’m surprised anyone is giving them light of day. DLC would take way less time to make and wouldn’t require the whole team again. Even with a pc port you don’t have to have the whole team to make it work it’s a smaller team. In regards to 14 it’s S-Es only cash cow they’re not going to screw that over. Devs shifting projects is good for their moral it’s probably why call of duty has gone into a hole of despair cause they make the same game day in day out year after year so they’re creatively bankrupt.

Hiring new people or building up their skills while the others worked on 16 is a good thing too they’re always hiring, heck look at the job listings they’re still recruiting now. I think they just wanted to spread their wings a bit with a single player entry after doing 11+ years of 14 and it gives them some fresh eyes and perspective to go back into 14. Even if they decide to make another project it would be 5-6 years away and not even in production till at least by the time of 14s next expansion after this in timeframe if we go with how long games can be in pre production etc.

I agree it's pretty obvious who OP may be, but I don't think he's wrong about Leviathan. I'm trying a new thing where I don't immediately dismiss someone based on some convos yesterday. Agree with you also though that some DLC for a game and assets mostly already done wouldn't be as much of an undertaking, so would have less of an impact than an entirely new game.

Leviathan is my favorite Summon/Eikon of all of them so his (or her in this case)'s absence was prettty notable since they bothered to write her as existing. People are also speculating exactly where Leviathan would be on the map also.

hmmm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow...b_Raider#sales
Upon release, Shadow of the Tomb Raider got off to a slow start in sales, attributed by Square Enix president Yosuke Matsuda to a lack of originality compared to other titles at the time. The game was the fifth best-selling title in the US. By the end of December 2018, the game shipped 4.12 million copies worldwide.While it saw lower sales than many other titles of that year, Eidos-Montréal was very happy with its sales as well as its critical reception, prompting them to produce the DLC episodes. As of December 2021, the game has sold 8.9 million copies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_o...b_Raider#sales
It was the fourth-bestselling game in the UK and Ireland in its week of release, debuting at number four in the UK retail software sales chart (behind Fallout 4, Call of Duty: Black Ops III and FIFA 16). The game however did not sell well enough in the month after its release to appear on the NPD Group chart. According to Square Enix, its initial commercial performance was "solid"; game director Brian Horton and Microsoft executive Aaron Greenberg said that Microsoft Studios and Square Enix were satisfied with the game's sales. Digitally, the Windows version sold three times better than the Xbox One version in the first month of release. The game had sold over one million copies by the end of 2015, and nearly seven million copies by November 2017.
In honor of the 25th anniversary of Tomb Raider, Square Enix and Crystal Dynamics celebrated each game and spin-off of the franchise with community features, nostalgia, and unseen contents throughout 2021. On its dedicated month, it was revealed that Rise of the Tomb Raider had sold 11.8 million in November 2021.

there were some doom-saying journalists who spoke of a RotTR flop (because fallout 4), but there are journalists who could be more useful to mankind if they counted the mosquitoes in the swamps or if they combed the desert dunes...

They maybe were overall happy in the end, but initially they werne't and said it underperformed at 3.4 M.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/sq...g-development/

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming...isappointment/

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/tom...isappointment/

https://www.gamesradar.com/square-en...l-tomb-raider/

https://www.xfire.com/square-enix-gu...isappointment/ (mentions Tomb Raider, showing Square regularly being disappointed)

https://www.criticalhit.net/gaming/t...chise-records/

https://www.pcgamesn.com/tombraider/...et-each-target

Them supposedly being happy didn't stop them from selling the studio for pennies.

[Mr_Gyactus]

Them supposedly being happy didn't stop them from selling the studio for pennies.

Sure, because Crystal Dynamics did a few hard fail games. 200m of accumulated debts have to be paid.
-> this for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel...rs_(video_game)
Despite initial strong sales, Marvel's Avengers failed to turn a profit for Square Enix, with the publisher reporting an estimated loss of $63 million for their latest fiscal period at the time.In November 2021, Square Enix president Yosuke Matsuda described Avengers as a commercial disappointment for the company. However, he affirmed that service games would be an important focus for the company in the future.

300m for the studio and its IP is not the best deal of the year, but it seems (my opinion, clearly) SE wants to move from AAA single player to "GaaS MMO videogame" and Crystal Dynamics was not able to show results, thus the sale.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Sure, because Crystal Dynamics did a few hard fail games. 200m of accumulated debts have to be paid.
-> this for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel...rs_(video_game)
Despite initial strong sales, Marvel's Avengers failed to turn a profit for Square Enix, with the publisher reporting an estimated loss of $63 million for their latest fiscal period at the time.In November 2021, Square Enix president Yosuke Matsuda described Avengers as a commercial disappointment for the company. However, he affirmed that service games would be an important focus for the company in the future.

300m for the studio and its IP is not the best deal of the year, but it seems (my opinion, clearly) SE wants to move from AAA single player to "GaaS MMO videogame" and Crystal Dynamics was not able to show results, thus the sale.

But Marvels Avengers was GaaS. And the new FF games are AAA single player, so I'm not understanding what you just wrote. Oh that other game that flopped (edit: Forspoken, a 2023 game whose name I couldn't even remember) they released recently was AAA single player too.

Upon a look at their upcoming roster of games, most seem to be single player.