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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    That's about typical for this forum. I mean I thought your point was pretty clear, granted you've been pretty abrasive around the forum, and now because of that, doesn't matter what you say for some people, they'll just immediately see your post and refuse to properly engage/comprehend what you're saying/hivemind "stormpeaks bad" and support anything that goes against you regardless of if you're right or wrong.

    Anyways, I've been busy so I wasn't able to follow up on the housing design thing, but later this week I'll be available, I'll try to remember to hit you up and see if you still wanna.
    Like you said, there are consequences to being regularly abrasive on a forum. For many it’s not really what you are saying, but how you go about saying it. Regularly posting snippy and disparaging replies to a variety of people will lose an audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Like you said, there are consequences to being regularly abrasive on a forum. For many it’s not really what you are saying, but how you go about saying it. Regularly posting snippy and disparaging replies to a variety of people will lose an audience.
    Except the difference here is how people respond to Storm and are so blinded by "oh em gee Storm dared to post something" and completely miss his point/not even acknowledge his point. It's happened a few times, even outside this thread. If you don't like someone because they were mean on an online forum, fine. Ignore them, don't engage with them, and ffs don't repeatedly say you have them on ignore. If you're going to respond to them, respond how you expect to be treated. I've had issues with Storm here and there, but that doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly be childish whenever I interact with him, ESPECIALLY when he makes an objectively good point on something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Except the difference here is how people respond to Storm and are so blinded by "oh em gee Storm dared to post something" and completely miss his point/not even acknowledge his point. It's happened a few times, even outside this thread. If you don't like someone because they were mean on an online forum, fine. Ignore them, don't engage with them, and ffs don't repeatedly say you have them on ignore. If you're going to respond to them, respond how you expect to be treated. I've had issues with Storm here and there, but that doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly be childish whenever I interact with him, ESPECIALLY when he makes an objectively good point on something.
    That's great for you, but for others like myself, respect is a two-way street. Certain people are quite aggressive here, are typically first to go on the offensive on numerous occasions. So they reaped what they sowed if people ignore and don't care what they have to say now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Except the difference here is how people respond to Storm and are so blinded by "oh em gee Storm dared to post something" and completely miss his point/not even acknowledge his point. It's happened a few times, even outside this thread. If you don't like someone because they were mean on an online forum, fine. Ignore them, don't engage with them, and ffs don't repeatedly say you have them on ignore. If you're going to respond to them, respond how you expect to be treated. I've had issues with Storm here and there, but that doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly be childish whenever I interact with him, ESPECIALLY when he makes an objectively good point on something.
    As much as I appreciate you for doing what you're doing, you really are wasting your time, but thank you : p and for housing you can poke me in game at the end of the week whenever I still have an NA char I'll come take a look at what you've done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    If you're going to respond to them, respond how you expect to be treated.
    It's a good rule, but it should apply to everyone, not just the people that are being aggressive towards someone equally aggressive.

    How about "If you're going to respond to people aggressively, expect to be treated the same"? Let's not pretend that Stormy is a ray of sunshine on these forums. If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow".

    I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    It's a good rule, but it should apply to everyone, not just the people that are being aggressive towards someone equally aggressive.

    How about "If you're going to respond to people aggressively, expect to be treated the same"? Let's not pretend that Stormy is a ray of sunshine on these forums. If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow".

    I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.
    I treat everyone how I'd want to be treated...until they give me reason not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    It's a good rule, but it should apply to everyone, not just the people that are being aggressive towards someone equally aggressive.

    How about "If you're going to respond to people aggressively, expect to be treated the same"? Let's not pretend that Stormy is a ray of sunshine on these forums. If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow".

    I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.
    A lot of the vitriolic responses I give are to people either straight up telling people to quit because they dislike X or X which at this point is the most obnoxious response possible, you are providing no decent feedback to the person complaining, you provide nothing by telling them "haha you dont like island sanctuary ? just quit bro !!" You're literally just being a nuisance and trying to make the complaint/feedback invalid by just telling them to quit (to clarify I am not saying you're doing that, I am talking in general)

    I give vitriol to people giving me or others vitriol in 95% of the cases if you look, and I dont see why I wouldnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    It's a good rule, but it should apply to everyone, not just the people that are being aggressive towards someone equally aggressive.

    How about "If you're going to respond to people aggressively, expect to be treated the same"? Let's not pretend that Stormy is a ray of sunshine on these forums. If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow".

    I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.
    My point was some people can't "see the forest for the trees" so to speak, so instead of engaging with Storm's point they'll proceed to ignore it and hyperfixate on something else/just attack Storm. I'm not saying Storm has been perfect, one of my previous posts in this thread even said he was abrasive. But I just don't like the whole "disregard point because of poster" nonsense. If you don't like the poster just don't engage, it's not hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    As much as I appreciate you for doing what you're doing, you really are wasting your time, but thank you : p and for housing you can poke me in game at the end of the week whenever I still have an NA char I'll come take a look at what you've done
    I've been wasting my life on Ark Survival Evolved (bad game don't play it) and my friend wants to play more Outlast Trials so I'll try to remember LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    That's great for you, but for others like myself, respect is a two-way street. Certain people are quite aggressive here, are typically first to go on the offensive on numerous occasions. So they reaped what they sowed if people ignore and don't care what they have to say now.
    Yes I agree respect is a two way street, but if you're just going to resort to childish levels of "I'm gonna get this poster I hate!" then you might as well not even respond instead of twisting what the person says or, you know, doing the thing you are against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Yes I agree respect is a two way street, but if you're just going to resort to childish levels of "I'm gonna get this poster I hate!" then you might as well not even respond instead of twisting what the person says or, you know, doing the thing you are against.
    Edit: As an aside I took a peek at some of Stormpeaks more recent discussions and this Stormpeaks seems fine to me. Wish I knew this Stormpeaks months ago. So maybe there is somthing to taking things one day at a time. She (he?) seems like any other poster so maybe I'm a bit outdated.

    Removed my earlier content as there really is no need to critique her further for something that happened months ago.

    To Stormpeaks: I'm sorry I called you a troll in the past. I honestly thought that was your intentions. While things can get heated and we don't often agree, it doesn't make you a troll. I am able to own up to something I said or my own behavior that was wrong, so I can say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I treat everyone how I'd want to be treated...until they give me reason not to.
    This is a very good way to go about things. I typically try to be open minded to other people (not to the point of denying objective truth and reality, but as much as I can otherwise) but there are definitely a few posters on the forums that have given me a reason not to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow". I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.
    The kinds of people who react to posters like Stormpeaks have a tendency to react in a manner that far exceeds how problematic the original post they're reacting to was. (assuming it really ever even was in the first place) Perhaps the saying should be "you reap what you sow, and then some more for good measure"

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    To Stormpeaks: I'm sorry I called you a troll in the past. I honestly thought that was your intentions. While things can get heated and we don't often agree, it doesn't make you a troll. I am able to own up to something I said or my own behavior that was wrong, so I can say that.
    I do wish that the forums in general would stop flinging around the word 'troll' so flippantly and save it for the people who are actually trolls. Perhaps this post here can serve as an example for others to follow.
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