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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    For example, why does Scholar need both Indomitability and Fey Blessing? Why does it need Whispering Dawn and Sacred Soil and Fey Illumination?
    Soil's for mit, idk why they added the regen in SHB. I thought it was dumb at the time too. For Indom/Blessing, I've said ages ago that I'd probably remove Blessing, and rework Deploy so that the Fairy does a copy of the skill you use, from a list. Indom would make the fairy do Fey Indom (functionally equivalent to Blessing atm), Deploy Adlo would be a double ST shield on one target for super mit on a tankbuster, Deploy Succor would be current Adlo-Deploy, bigger partywide shielding, and Deploy Excog would be for 'I really don't want this tank to get instaslapped by an auto and die after this TB' I guess

    As for a merged Illum/WDawn, I think you are describing Physis2, but jokes aside, yeh I'm not a massive fan of Fey Illumination's existence either, I'd rather have lost it in the prune than Rouse for example
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Rework Deploy so that the Fairy does a copy of the skill you use, from a list. Indom would make the fairy do Fey Indom (functionally equivalent to Blessing atm), Deploy Adlo would be a double ST shield on one target for super mit on a tankbuster, Deploy Succor would be current Adlo-Deploy, bigger partywide shielding, and Deploy Excog would be for 'I really don't want this tank to get instaslapped by an auto and die after this TB' I guess
    This system would actually be very interesting on SGE. Imagine if:
    - Dosis is a straight heal on Kardia target
    - Eukrasian Dosis is a regen on Kardia target
    - Dyskrasia pulses an AoE heal out from Kardia target
    - Phlegma places a shield on Kardia target
    - Pneuma pulses an AoE shield out from Kardia target
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Soil's for mit, idk why they added the regen in SHB. I thought it was dumb at the time too. For Indom/Blessing, I've said ages ago that I'd probably remove Blessing, and rework Deploy so that the Fairy does a copy of the skill you use, from a list. Indom would make the fairy do Fey Indom (functionally equivalent to Blessing atm), Deploy Adlo would be a double ST shield on one target for super mit on a tankbuster, Deploy Succor would be current Adlo-Deploy, bigger partywide shielding, and Deploy Excog would be for 'I really don't want this tank to get instaslapped by an auto and die after this TB' I guess

    As for a merged Illum/WDawn, I think you are describing Physis2, but jokes aside, yeh I'm not a massive fan of Fey Illumination's existence either, I'd rather have lost it in the prune than Rouse for example
    I'd rather see Whispering Dawn upgrade into Fey Blessing, and/or have that replace Indomitability as your OGCD AoE heal. I also don't see the point in having both Physis II and Kerachole. I get that Physis II has the healing increased effect, but I'd rather rework how you access that rather than have two slightly different OGCD regens. And that's kinda my point with Soil/WD/Illumination... they all bleed together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    This system would actually be very interesting on SGE. Imagine if:
    - Dosis is a straight heal on Kardia target
    - Eukrasian Dosis is a regen on Kardia target
    - Dyskrasia pulses an AoE heal out from Kardia target
    - Phlegma places a shield on Kardia target
    - Pneuma pulses an AoE shield out from Kardia target
    I'd want more choice involved with Kardia. That kind of change just makes the regens and barriers consequences of doing your rotation. I've actually started thinking more along the lines of something like:

    Dosis - Deals 330 Potency. No MP Cost. No Kardia Effect
    New Spell - Deals 330 Potency. 800 MP Cost. Heals your Kardia target with a potency of 250.

    In the past, my concepts of a Sage rework included other similar concepts. Namely Polydipsia which replaces Soteria: a DPS spell that applies 4 stacks of Soteria to your Kardia target, doubling the Kardia effects granted by other spells, or Eukrasian Polydipsia which instead grants 2 stacks of Therapeia to your Kardia target which blasts the Kardia effects of other spells to all allies nearby them.

    Basically, your DPS rotation is about making choices with your Kardia healing, and using Dosis when you don't need to heal.
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 07-05-2023 at 02:44 PM.