Fame

[Yves]

Anyone who doesn't like the fame system is an idiot who doesn't want to actually play the game, just have everything served in a silver platter. They are also the same people who complain they run out of content too fast.

And, once again, here we are with the ugly opposite of "go play XI"...

Why is it so hard to say "I like XYZ/I don't like XYZ because ABC"?!

Why? Because the internet has no sense of consequence.

The solution? Mandate that shock collars be worn in order to use the internet with a supercomputer designed to detect doosh behavior. When a user is found in violation they are shocked.

[Majidah]

Not awesome. Terrible.


You should revise your statement that if you wanted anything, you had to actually turn in hundreds if not thousands of millioncorn/cabbage/vegetables at Selbina because it was the quickest and most efficient way to gain fame.

Non repeatable quests gave more fame than repeateable ones. If you just sat down and enjoyed the game instead of trying to rush to the top the requirement unlocked quests would be opened without even noticing.

Fame was more or less a horrible block for people to start experiencing content. Don't have fame? No problem, we'll just exclude you from playing the only job you had a desire to play in the first place! Hurray!

Then again, if you wanted to rush, then yeah, you could go and grind like crazy and hate the game. Hey man, its up to you. Your choice of gameplay. But don't go complaining if you have a bad time.

Because nothing says fun like wanting to unlock Summoner as your main job, but having to do some arbitrary garbage fame turn in quest. Accessibility is far more important than FFXI nostalgia or "FFXI challenges."

When XI was released being a summoner actually meant something. It was a staple job and getting the avatars was no easy task. People would actually stop in jeuno to stare at them in awe.

How horrible, having an objective to aim to instead of being handed everything to you the first week through mindless grinding.

[Platinumstorm]

Again, same result in a different thread. The OP never asked for the whole game of XI to be cloned. He asked for one component that they found fun.

Why people immediately jump to this conclusion is proof that Darwin was wrong...

I thank you for going out of your way to personally attack me. When referencing "FFXI" clone, I was referring to this poster, at the top of page 2.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post628895

FFXIV from day one should have been a 100% clone of what FFXI had to give to players just 100% diff and better and 10x better and FFXIV would have been a great game and added dungeon finder and many things from wow and other games and it would have been great.

[Morticous]

"QQ what if it takes effort to get? I hate effort!"

[Wolfie]

"QQ what if it takes effort to get? I hate effort!"

Nobody actually said that you dillweed.

[ThePatriarch]

"QQ what if it takes effort to get? I hate effort!"

alot of people would quit

[Morticous]

Nobody actually said that you dillweed.

"Because nothing says fun like wanting to unlock Summoner as your main job, but having to do some arbitrary garbage fame turn in quest. Accessibility is far more important than FFXI nostalgia or "FFXI challenges."

That's what this says to me. he doesn't like working to get his advanced classes, he wants them to be "accessible". The need for instant gratification is all I ever read on these forums... And that need is why everyone is soooo boooored and has all level 50s. Nobody wants to gain fame, quest for maps, walk anywhere or gain access to Aeythrite crystals themselves, questing for access to the airship is too hard and waiting more then 2 seconds for the airship is too long, competition for NMs is too hard, everything should be instanced so its easy for me to access, booo hooooooo.

All of this QQing is exactly what is keeping content out of this game.

[Colino]

And what would the purpose of this fame system be? I mean, besides that it was in FFXI and therefore must[ also be in FFXIV?

That's the only reason they need around these parts.

[Majidah]

Nobody actually said that you dillweed.

Yeah they did.

Because nothing says fun like wanting to unlock Summoner as your main job, but having to do some arbitrary garbage fame turn in quest

WHAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE REQUIRES FOR YOU TO DO THINGS! RUN FOR THE HILLS!

[LemmingKingXXX]

Summoner's probably a bad example for what you are trying to say, seeing as fame was just to start the quest, the quest itself was a separate achievement, and then there was primal collecting, either you knew a buddy who could or you yourself could solo the true primals, or you had to level to 20 to fight the lowbie versions by yourself
I mean sure, activating the quest to become a summoner required the challenge of fame as you call it, but once you got past that as a magic using job you had a lot more effort in store to actually be effective, kinda similar to BLU, not like you could buy all those spells, and for the jobs which primarily had purchasable spells, you had to be able to make money in order to do so
Wanting to be a mage in XI was an effort in of itself, fame was a barrier to beginning that effort, not the effort itself.