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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    There's little reason to address your "main point" as it goes nowhere due to a lack of data. Simple as that there.
    No, actually it isn't as simple as that. I have explained what reasonable people do when data is not available easily. In the real world, scientists, engineers, and policymakers often have to make inferences and deductions when data is scarce. You do not seem to understand that educated claims and arguments CAN still be made even with minimal data. Asking for "data" is a cop-out to pretend that one can make absolutely no claims about the situation to dismiss any and all argument made under uncertainty. Pure mathematics is a discipline that uses precisely zero data. There is such a thing known as logical deductions.

    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    It's not a derailing at all nor does it dismiss anything. If anything it a knowledges it. If we go by what you say and the game does nothing right (pure acknowledgement n seeing it from your view) the next question is why are you still paying? That's not being passive aggressive...what is it with you people n using buzzwords (incorrectly mind you) for every damn thing? Don't yall crap on the Twitter side of this community for doing this? Where is this blame shift? Hell where did blame itself even come from? That concept hasn't even been used or brought up til you made it up and added to this (odd cause I remember you telling someone else they were being irrational n making things up basically earlier). Next question...Where's the hostility? I asked a simple question acknowledging n going by your view and that's...hostile now? Isn't your camp the same folks talking about XIV fans being to soft and immature? Like legit I'm confused...
    Please stop making bad-faith posts like these. I do not use Twitter. I did not say the game does nothing right. I do not belong to any "camp". You are constructing a strawman.

    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Your points arent solid like you think they are dude. Your hivemind will think they are as per usual as someone is either always right or always wrong here. But I can tell talking with you is only further devolving to the same old nonsensical bs so I say we just agree to disagree n call it.
    It's only devolving because you are polluting the discourse by using bad-faith argumentative tactics, such as:
    - Derailment: by going into a non-sequitur of interrogating why I pay my sub
    - Strawmanning: by claiming that I have written opinions that I have never written
    - Insults: by calling my posts "nonsensical bs" or using words like "hivemind"
    - Concern trolling: by pretending that you are "confused" or "curious" and seeking to attempt to understand my arguments when you, in the very next sentence, insult me.

    I strongly advise you to discuss the game in good faith lest you break more forum rules going forward, and reflect on your own method of writing and argumentation and why it poisons the discourse on the forums and creates a negative environment for all, especially towards players who are merely criticizing the game.
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    Last edited by TheDecay; 06-29-2023 at 04:27 PM.
    Dealing with bad-faith forum posters who tell you to quit or say your concern is in the minority:
    1. Do not engage in their bad-faith attacks.
    2. Warn others of their bad-faith if they have a long history of it.
    3. Continue the productive conversation and silently report them for personal attacks.
    Be firm but polite, recognize their tactics and don't fall into their traps.