FFXVI has now officially proven to have taken over Yoshi's time

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Half of FF14's success is from WoW's failure. The other half: the FF fanbase's propensity to accept anything SE puts out.

These dumbed down jobs did not make the game more successful. No new player comes to the game because of the SMN rework. It wasn't advertised, it wasn't marketed, and only a fraction of new players actually will play SMN at all.

This game has an attrition rate of 20-30% per patch. New players join because of SE's aggressive advertisement and marketing strategy, and word of mouth based off of how the story is good. These are the primary factors. If job design stuck to Stormblood's design while everything else stayed the same (ShB/EW story, same level of marketing etc.), I highly doubt there will be any difference in this game's financial success.

In other words, this game's success is not attributable to every single decision CBU3 made. By percentage growth in player count, HW was also a major success. SB was also a major success. This tells you that the growth in players is likely independent of many of the decisions they make for the game.

Really...? So the game isn't successful for anything it has done. It's because ff fans are apparently idiots and WoW is bad...yet many FF games have flopped in the past and many xiv fans aren't FF fans. So that logic dies right there.

Can you prove to me that more accessible jobs didn't contribute? Is there some data you have to share for this? How do you know no new players joined due to a class rework? You don't. You don't THINK so. But you dont KNOW so. Let's be more accurate there. In fact much of what you're saying is backed by nothing but sheer opinion there. If you truly think more accessible classes don't/can't bring is new players you don't understand business in that regard.

To say the games growth has nothing or little to do with CBU3 is beyond off. The game has to be good enough for folks to stay/come back to play. Yes HW, SB, ShB and EW are indeed major successes. (ShB onwards being the bigger ones desipte the game "according to these forums" ruining the game). And that is attributed to (for the most part) CBU3 doing an overall good job expac after expac.

But I forget you operate on the logic that CBU3 has done nothing right...yet you still pay monthly for the game. By your own logic you're either here because of bad WoW or you're one of those so called sheeple SE fans.

Lastly that last part is funny. Number 1 sure I'll give you. Number 2 makes no sense. Since when was asking for evidence a bad faith move? If you make a claim n folks ask for it that's perfectly normal. If one person hasnt provided evidence n they werent asked to its not bad faith if they turn around and ask. Number 3 is just more "hate big corporate jargon. And number 4 is also weird. If the fact is that your view is the minority you can call that bad faith. Now if you went further n said folks who say that and then proclaim your view is less valid THEN I'd agree.