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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    So much bickering in the thread, and nobody has pointed out the best(?) part: a new hairstyle contest!

    Time to get thinking about ideas...
    It has been mentionned (I think?). Unfortunately the game has been taken hostage by the previous hairstyle contest for so long it's hard to feel positive about this.
    Sure, it's a good opportunity to finally shake up our current roster, but there's an equal chance vote will be biased towards a certain style and this is all we'll get for the next four years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Sure, it's a good opportunity to finally shake up our current roster, but there's an equal chance vote will be biased towards a certain style and this is all we'll get for the next four years.
    If it gets dominated by certain styles then that means those are the sorts of styles that a lot of people want.

    Either that or (ideally perhaps) they just don't run a vote and instead just have the judges pick out a good balance of interesting things themselves. There are still some things in the old contest's shortlist that I wish they had implemented in addition to the winners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If it gets dominated by certain styles then that means those are the sorts of styles that a lot of people want.

    Either that or (ideally perhaps) they just don't run a vote and instead just have the judges pick out a good balance of interesting things themselves. There are still some things in the old contest's shortlist that I wish they had implemented in addition to the winners.
    How does the contest work? Is it world wide? Or another "Japanese players get to choose what everyone else will get" sort of thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If it gets dominated by certain styles then that means those are the sorts of styles that a lot of people want.

    Either that or (ideally perhaps) they just don't run a vote and instead just have the judges pick out a good balance of interesting things themselves. There are still some things in the old contest's shortlist that I wish they had implemented in addition to the winners.
    They'd likely get very different results if they polled people in-game and split the contest into at least three different categories - namely 'feminine', 'androgynous' and 'masculine'. There have also been many threads over the years asking for masculine aesthetics/hairstyles to be embraced more readily which received quite a bit of support. We also know that Yoshi-P was 'surprised' to receive the request for the stubble sported by the Warrior of Light in cinematic/promotional footage to be added to the game. Which suggests that feedback relating to male characters isn't really sent their way as a priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Is this something they've done before?

    Edit: judging by subsequent replies, there clearly have been
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    How does the contest work? Is it world wide? Or another "Japanese players get to choose what everyone else will get" sort of thing?
    The thread for the original contest is here:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-Voting-Thread

    They don't have any details for the new one on the site, so it's all speculation how it's going to run this time.


    For the record, ones I wanted that didn't get in:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They'd likely get very different results if they polled people in-game and split the contest into at least three different categories - namely 'feminine', 'androgynous' and 'masculine'. There have also been many threads over the years asking for masculine aesthetics/hairstyles to be embraced more readily which received quite a bit of support. We also know that Yoshi-P was 'surprised' to receive the request for the stubble sported by the Warrior of Light in cinematic/promotional footage to be added to the game. Which suggests that feedback relating to male characters isn't really sent their way as a priority.
    I am totally with you in wanting more masculine hairstyles (I have been wearing the same hairstyle since HW), but if you think that an in-game poll wouldn't tip the scales MORE in the favour of feminine hairstyles I don't know what to say.

    To get a balance of hairstyles, they need to not make it a player vote. It needs to be the judges only. It will always be heavily skewed towards feminine if they let the playerbase decide. Look at the popularity of the short bob from pyros/great lengths compared to the Firmament short styles. Or the girly ponytail vs the androgynous ponytail from Island.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    I am totally with you in wanting more masculine hairstyles (I have been wearing the same hairstyle since HW), but if you think that an in-game poll wouldn't tip the scales MORE in the favour of feminine hairstyles I don't know what to say.

    To get a balance of hairstyles, they need to not make it a player vote. It needs to be the judges only. It will always be heavily skewed towards feminine if they let the playerbase decide. Look at the popularity of the short bob from pyros/great lengths compared to the Firmament short styles. Or the girly ponytail vs the androgynous ponytail from Island.
    Call me pessimistic but I feel if the players were to decide, it'd be heavily inclined to feminine and cutesy styles, but if it was up to the devs, they'd go for androgynous bobs and bowl cuts to cut corners.

    Meanwhile, those of us who want more short/masculine styles...



    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Clarification: I would say my desire is the ability to have new customization be distinctly masculine, just as there is a plethora of new customization to be distinctly (overtly) feminine. There is nothing wrong with being feminine or androgynous, but is disheartening to see majority of new customizations heavily lean in one direction.
    The icing of the cake is the last hairstyle literally proves people will go nuts over a hairstyle that's clearly "not for them" even after getting 7 consecutive ponytails and braids, but when someone playing a Roe, Hroth or Highlander speaks out about getting tired of getting cutesy cuts, they're told to shove it ...yay double standards!
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    Last edited by Allegor; 06-28-2023 at 02:34 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.