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    TakumiHarada's Avatar
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    Fukudo Daisho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    The solution to salted earth is to fix the slow server ticks and funky animations that decide to pull you from 10x further away than the spell is supposed to.

    Dragoon shatter isn't much of an issue imo. They already reduced the AoE shatter potency, if they're coordinating LB's they deserve whatever kills they score.
    I agree that coordination should be rewarded. But only DRK/DRG being the meta has nothing related to "coordination".
    Other jobs, say PLD/BRD, coordinating doesn't have the same effect as DRK/DRG coordinating. The ceiling is the problem.
    In FL these two jobs are THE solution when that alliance coordinates well.

    I'm not complaining about coordination. I'm complaining about only DRK/DRG having a much higher ceiling/potential than the other jobs in FL.
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    Archeron's Avatar
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Golem
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    Ninja Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by TakumiHarada View Post
    I agree that coordination should be rewarded. But only DRK/DRG being the meta has nothing related to "coordination".
    Other jobs, say PLD/BRD, coordinating doesn't have the same effect as DRK/DRG coordinating. The ceiling is the problem.
    In FL these two jobs are THE solution when that alliance coordinates well.

    I'm not complaining about coordination. I'm complaining about only DRK/DRG having a much higher ceiling/potential than the other jobs in FL.
    It takes a lot of incompetence to allow a DRK/DRG LB to go off, especially in a way where it wipes your team.

    1. Nobody applies CC to the DRK who is charging your lines.
    2. DRG LB's, and nobody guards, or backs away in response.

    Every class doesn't need to be made to compete with DRK/DRG. They have their niches. Theres 24 people on your team, and it takes one of them applying CC to either the DRK, or DRG, and for your team to not spread out to wipe to this "meta".

    We need to push for fixes to the server tick, (which likely are never coming.) if we want PvP to play, and feel better than it is.

    PLD also does have major coordination power, just nobody complains about paladins or their defensive AOE until they have 10 seconds of invuln and they're being attacked by an entire team at once.
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    Llynethil's Avatar
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    Llynethil Kindle
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    It takes a lot of incompetence to allow a DRK/DRG LB to go off, especially in a way where it wipes your team.
    No it doesn't, I got top kills again last night as dragoon because skillfull job is skillfull.

    You don't even need a dark knight to do so neither, you can literally run around the enemy team and lb them from behind, they'll al think it's a friendly dragoon and boom, mass wipe.
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llynethil View Post
    No it doesn't, I got top kills again last night as dragoon because skillfull job is skillfull.

    You don't even need a dark knight to do so neither, you can literally run around the enemy team and lb them from behind, they'll al think it's a friendly dragoon and boom, mass wipe.
    "Skillfull" as in you place a blue circle overtop of enemies who aren't paying attention who are clustered together? If thats skill then scholars are also skilled for placing mass dots on people. Don't be ridiculous.
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    Rajeko Thunderbright
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    Lich
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    Scholar Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    "Skillfull" as in you place a blue circle overtop of enemies who aren't paying attention who are clustered together? If thats skill then scholars are also skilled for placing mass dots on people. Don't be ridiculous.
    Can confirm, I get more kills on dragoon than anything else and nothing about it is skillful.
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    Llynethil Kindle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    "Skillfull" as in you place a blue circle overtop of enemies who aren't paying attention who are clustered together? If thats skill then scholars are also skilled for placing mass dots on people. Don't be ridiculous.
    Do I really gotta put a /s on such a blatantly obvious sarcastic statement next time so some people actually get it? Just .... wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llynethil View Post
    Do I really gotta put a /s on such a blatantly obvious sarcastic statement next time so some people actually get it? Just .... wow.
    The only thing blatantly obvious here is your lack of humour. I'd suggest for you to look in the mirror if you wanted a joke.

    Making a sarcastic comment on a forum filled with people who standby all sorts of horrible suggestions and recommendations only makes you another clown in the circus.
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