Loose threads of the Void

[TheDecay]

How does Cloud of Darkness fit into the 6.x story, if at all?

Cyella? Unukalhai?

Mhach? Amdapor? Void Ark? Dun Scaith? Sixth Umbral Calamity?

Or are we just going to pretend those loose threads never existed in 6.5.

"Players please forget about story threads from previous expansions and enjoy 7.0"

[TheMightyMollusk]

The Cloud of Darkness was mentioned, but hasn't shown up. If distances in the Void are like distances on the Source, she'd be a quarter of the way around the world, and voidsent aren't really known to cooperate freely, so it's not like anyone's gonna go gossip with her about it.

Cyella and Unukalhai are locked behind optional content, so of course they're not gonna be mentioned in the main story. If you go talk to them on the First, they do get some new dialogue.

Mhach, the Void Ark, and Dun Scaith are all on the Source (and also only touched upon in optional content); and, like the above pair, are only in optional content. They're also not really "loose threads", since that story was finished back in Heavensward, so they're not especially relevant anymore.

[TheDecay]

The Cloud of Darkness was mentioned, but hasn't shown up. If distances in the Void are like distances on the Source, she'd be a quarter of the way around the world, and voidsent aren't really known to cooperate freely, so it's not like anyone's gonna go gossip with her about it.

Cyella and Unukalhai are locked behind optional content, so of course they're not gonna be mentioned in the main story. If you go talk to them on the First, they do get some new dialogue.

Mhach, the Void Ark, and Dun Scaith are all on the Source (and also only touched upon in optional content); and, like the above pair, are only in optional content. They're also not really "loose threads", since that story was finished back in Heavensward, so they're not especially relevant anymore.

No, they absolutely did not tie up those story threads. We still don't know how exactly the Sixth Umbral Calamity happened and whether The Thirteenth and The Tenth have any connection, and whether voidsents played a part beyond general "destabilization". We don't know much about Mhachi culture beyond "they used voidsents". We know far less about Amdapor.

Those threads being locked behind optional content has not stopped SE from using those same characters and ideas in the MSQ. G'raha Tia himself is a prime example, before they made CT mandatory. And if they made CT mandatory, so too can they make Mhach and Warring Triad mandatory.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Nothing in particular about the Sixth Calamity is relevant to the Void, save that voidsent were involved, most notably Diabolos. Who was killed for good back in Dun Scaith. There is, quite frankly, no reason for that to be brought up now. Mhach hasn't been mentioned for the same reason; it simply has nothing to do with the current story. We might as well be wondering what the Lambs of Dalamud have been up to lately.

[BaconBits]

It's pretty hilarious that the two characters that should have the most vested interest in reclaiming their lost home get nothing but little snippets of dialogue because OmPtIoNaL cOmTeNt while also getting beaten in acquiring safe passage through the void by a blind catgirl that wants to reunite with her big tiddy Hrothgar husband lmao.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Arnt these just side quests that have Zero Connection to the MSQ - Thus, have Zero effect on the World?

[BaconBits]

Arnt these just side quests that have Zero Connection to the MSQ - Thus, have Zero effect on the World?

So was Crystal Tower until it wasn't lol.

[TheDecay]

Arnt these just side quests that have Zero Connection to the MSQ - Thus, have Zero effect on the World?

Um... they all involve literal people from the Void. So we have 2 years of Void storyline but instead of getting Cyella and Unukalhai into the main story as they deserve, we have... Zero.

Instead of expanding on their story, explaining the choices they made and the devil's bargain they made with the Ascians we have... Zero.

What a grand missed opportunity. They could've let Y'shtola disappear for good and replace the Scions with Cyella and Unukalhai, and along with Varsahn we would have enough for Duty Support. You know, people who actually have a reason to go into the Void.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So was Crystal Tower until it wasn't lol.

So is Void Ark suddenly relevant to the MSQ just because Shadowbringers made the events of The Crystal Tower Relevant to its story?

Um... they all involve literal people from the Void. So we have 2 years of Void storyline but instead of getting Cyella and Unukalhai into the main story as they deserve, we have... Zero.

Instead of expanding on their story, explaining the choices they made and the devil's bargain they made with the Ascians we have... Zero.

If they arnt in the MSQ, then they (currently) have no msq relevance.

[TheDecay]

So is Void Ark suddenly relevant to the MSQ just because Shadowbringers made the events of The Crystal Tower Relevant to its story?

So?? Maybe they should?

What's everyone's take back then? Oh, let me repeat:

"Crystal Tower was a boring, irrelevant story until Shadowbringers retroactively made it good".

Why not give the same treatment to Cait Sith, Cyella, and Unukalhai? Why did we need Y'shtola to follow us into the Void again? What's the point of Zero? Imagine if Cyella replaced Zero, the story would've been 200% better.