Yet another SMN thread: SMN is the only job that doesn't have a gauge/proc management

[Renathras]

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Yeah, that's what I thought.

Haven't read rest of your rant post, they were entertaining at first, but it's really getting boring.

Someone points out how you're rude - despite you insisting otherwise or it's a "culture thing" and insinuating the person saying it has thin skin - person also points out you're lying in your two main critiques of them - both of which came from you entering into conversations, mistaking them/making up something they didn't say, and refusing to accept they didn't say or mean what you said - and then of course you try to pull a whataboutism of "Well, in this ONE post you said things!!!" to justify your own malicious behavior, despite the fact that you're the one attacking that person in every thread while they try to disengage and that the post you quoted was after you opened up on said person with this:

How much mental gymnastics do you need to justify your baseless argument? Why are you bringing FFXIV trial into this? In what world is 50$ "free"? I paid 60$ + 50$ + 30$ + 30$ throughout the years for base game and expansions if I remember correctly, so do you really want to claim that 170$ is "free"? Are you for real? How about we put FFXIV and GW2 on even ground? FFXIV with EW costs 40$ and includes 1 month sub. Let's buy 10 months of entry sub. Total price is 170$, so it's free, right? Of course it's fucking not, stop trying to be right for any cost and admit your ignorance for once. GW2 was never "free", when it released, you had to buy even base game to play at all, and even now, you can play base game but with significant limitations, even more strict than FFXIV's trial.


How about you learn to make valid arguments instead of using random german words to make yourself seem smarter? If someone is acting dumb, I'll call them out, there's nothing "schadenfreude" about that.


And I wasn't talking to you with neither of my statements, yet here we are.


Some people straight up swapped to SMN because it's so brain-dead. Scripe from Echo started tier as SMN so he can focus on solving mechanics and so on. There's nothing wrong with few jobs being brain-dead, but SMN has crossed the line of how much simplistic it can get and should either have it's skill ceiling elevated OR deal less damage, because there's straight up no good reason why you should pick RDM over SMN. Jobs should definitely not have different DPS depending on their difficulty, that's terrible design, but when difference between RDM and SMN is so massive, then that is the last resort. Obviously best scenario is to just make SMN's skill ceiling higher to justify it's DPS.


Regarding to your uneducated nonsense about GW2, even though you admitted that you quit at level 20ish and therefore experienced <5% of the game:

So?


Cool, but GW2 is not FFXIV. I don't know whether you expect every game to be carbon copy of each other or what. If you wanted holy trinity, then what did you expect from MMORPG most known for the anti-trinity design?

GW2 nowadays has holy trinity, but you really only need to play with trinity in raids, strikes and T4 fractals with challenge mode active. All of that is high end combat content, if you want to play casually, you don't even need to know what holy trinity is. However, only elite specializations, which are locked behind level 80, are really focused on trinity, so if you play guardian, you will be just regular DPS, with slightly more focus on heals and protection, but at level 80 and after meeting all requirements, you can pick Firebrand specialization to become healer/support. Funnily enough, if you want to be condi DPS, you use the same Firebrand specialization, just with different trees, weapons and stats.


If you don't like the game and didn't even invest few hours, then stop acting like you're some veteran who knows everything about the game. Just be quiet instead of spewing uneducated nonsense, you're just making a fool of yourself. And if you want to claim that initial experience should hook players, then I need to remind you that we're on FFXIV forums, game popular for having first ~50 hours absolutely miserable. I gave this game first try in ~2014, I hated it, but I didn't spew nonsense on gaming forums, based on my very limited experience. You should try that too.


So why do you have the need to discuss the game when you know nothing about it? Why did you even start playing the game known for being anti-trinity, when you want trinity?

Shall we count the insults in that post?

"mental gymnastics"
"your baseless argument"
"Are you for real?"
"Of course it's fucking not"
"stop trying to be right for any cost"
"admit your ignorance for once"
"How about you learn to make valid arguments"
"to make yourself seem smarter"
"acting dumb"
"your uneducated nonsense"
"stop acting like"
"Just be quiet"
"spewing uneducated nonsense"
"you're just making a fool of yourself"
"spew nonsense"

ALSO all just from one single post.

When you come out like that at someone, you can't be shocked they take offense.

I'll also note you don't apologize for any of it, and either ignore it, pretend just plopping entire posts of mine makes your behavior acceptable, ignore that I didn't pick that fight with you or those other people, I only responded in anger AFTER your super mean post and that frustrating dogpile pushing me (in other words, my anger was in defense, your was in offense/aggression/unprovoked attack), and that of the two of us, I'm the only one trying to stop this feud while you're continuing to press it in almost every post you make in any thread we're both in.

Somehow, I'm not at all surprised.

I also like how I was able to highlight specific insulting/rude/antagonistic/aggressive things you said, but you couldn't, instead just plopping an entire post as if that was evidence. Let me help you:

"This is why people on the internet suck"
"isn't as bad as the forum community is"
" idiots support you"
"being dicks for dogpile points"
"in angrybird mode"
"unhinged, insult laden tirade" (which was me specifically using the exact wording you had just insulted me with, btw)
"unhinged tirade"

And that was after about two days and several pages of people dogpiling on me and your EXTREMELY rude/mean/aggressive post - something that hasn't happened to you to justify your behavior.

I can actually point out when I'm a jerk, unlike present company who believe everything they do is righteous no matter what.

"Holy POOPIE"

Did he just

Keepin' it clean (well, relatively speaking) instead of the rudeness being thrown my way.

You should try it sometime.

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Anyway, I said I was done responding to you and your childish feud. You keep trying to goad me into continuing, banking on me having a desire to set the record straight and defend myself - goading your victim where they only have the choice to engage and you attack them further OR them not engage and your insults and accusations stand, btw, is a common tactic of serial abusers as well - but I'm beyond tired of you at this point. I might just block your posts to save my sanity and anyone else's.

EDIT2:

And what do you mean I didn't even apologize, I even future proofed my insults!

That'd be like me saying "If you thought you were right about slidecasting, I apologize for you being wrong", and apologizing for future events somewhat implies you intend to make more - which, of course, you have. Saying "I apologize" in advance for doing a bad thing then doing the bad thing doesn't negate the fact you're still doing a bad thing, and by choice.

[Deo14]

Shall we count the insults in that post?

"mental gymnastics"
"your baseless argument"
"Are you for real?"
"Of course it's fucking not"
"stop trying to be right for any cost"
"admit your ignorance for once"
"How about you learn to make valid arguments"
"to make yourself seem smarter"
"acting dumb"
"your uneducated nonsense"
"stop acting like"
"Just be quiet"
"spewing uneducated nonsense"
"you're just making a fool of yourself"
"spew nonsense"

If you think that things like "mental gymnastics" are insults, then get of the internet. Or even better, grow some skin by playing games which have people that won't deal with your bullshit, like DotA or LoL. You skin is becoming translucent with how thin it is.

Or is there something deeper that we're missing? Are you just trolling and generating your essays in chatGPT? I'm starting to think you're not even real person. And what do you mean I didn't even apologize, I even future proofed my insults!

But in the end, everything "mean" I said were just mere remarks, which I didn't think mature person like you could be offended by. If you got offended by them, I apologize, and I would also want to future proof this and apologize for the future "mean" remarks towards you.

[Renathras]

Don't care.

I'm done with your feud.

When you want to act like a mature and respectful adult and engage in good faith discussion, I will respond in kind.

When you do not, I will ignore your posts.

So if you reply to me and I don't reply, that means your post is not in good faith and you are not being a mature and respectful adult - henceforth, that is what silence from me will mean.

[Deo14]

Don't care.

I'm done with your feud.

When you want to act like a mature and respectful adult and engage in good faith discussion, I will respond in kind.

When you do not, I will ignore your posts.

So if you reply to me and I don't reply, that means your post is not in good faith and you are not being a mature and respectful adult - henceforth, that is what silence from me will mean.

You already said you will stop responding to me like a week ago, yet here we are, 20 pages later.

Also what's the deal with your "good faith" lately? Did you learn new buzzword? Is dogwhistling and virtue signaling going to be next?

[Mosha]

Don't care.

I'm done with your feud.

When you want to act like a mature and respectful adult and engage in good faith discussion, I will respond in kind.

When you do not, I will ignore your posts.

So if you reply to me and I don't reply, that means your post is not in good faith and you are not being a mature and respectful adult - henceforth, that is what silence from me will mean.

You are the issue, not the forum. like I haven't seen a post by you where someone likes your Ben Shipero essay's as the initial point, then you just get memed on for having a garbage take then you start the cycle again.
I'm not arguing in good faith btw

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Things are getting too personal I'm having 2nd hand embarrassment just from reading.

But anyway...

[ZephyrMenodora]

Just thought I'd post some Rydia art with another Summon I wish I had, given the past 3 pages already have nothing to do with Summoning lol.

[BaconBits]

Just thought I'd post some Rydia art with another Summon I wish I had, given the past 3 pages already have nothing to do with Summoning lol.

The devs were cowards for giving men pants for this outfit frfr.

[ZephyrMenodora]

The devs were cowards for giving men pants for this outfit frfr.

I mean...I wanted this official concept art version lol:



Also too late to change our weapon to a whip?

Just glad we didn't end up with this from Nintendo Power:

[BaconBits]

I mean...I wanted this official concept art version lol:



Also too late to change our weapon to a whip?

Just glad we didn't end up with this from Nintendo Power:

They were NOT cooking with that last pic, good lord.