How can we reopen the FF14 subreddit?

[ZephyrMenodora]

That's nice and all but you're also hurting 99% of your community who don't give a shit about third party apps or whatever and just need to get answer for a FF14 question.

That’s how I feel. I don’t think a tiny number of moderators should be able to control if hundreds of thousands of people who use their subreddit get to engage with it. It’s pretty selfish. People should have their own decision if whatever is going on rises to the level of not using thr platform.

[Stormpeaks]

That’s how I feel. I don’t think a tiny number of moderators should be able to control if hundreds of thousands of people who use their subreddit get to engage with it. It’s pretty selfish. People should have their own decision if whatever is going on rises to the level of not using thr platform.

Yeah why would people protest to them ruining third party apps for the entire community, why dont they just sit there and let it happen, how passive can you be ? Not everyone is just a ragdoll like you letting things happen because it doesnt touch them directly, you are the selfish one.

[Boblawblah]

Yeah why would people protest to them ruining third party apps for the entire community, why dont they just sit there and let it happen, how passive can you be ? Not everyone is just a ragdoll like you letting things happen because it doesnt touch them directly, you are the selfish one.

I'm not sure which timeline we're in now, but I agree.

Reddit relies on these 'tiny number of moderators' to do all their work for them, and are now looking to go public. Do you suppose those mods will get any of the profits? No, reddit will try to act like the good guy here, when they're simply trying to make money off the service of these small number of users that keep reddit working. Those 3rd party applications also include admin/mod tools that help them do their job. Does anyone want to see reddit have no moderation and become 4chan? I don't, and I barely use reddit for ffxiv stuff.

[Mosha]

I'm not sure which timeline we're in now, but I agree.
Does anyone want to see reddit have no moderation and become 4chan? I don't, and I barely use reddit for ffxiv stuff.

God, it would be even more cringe than 4chan

[ZephyrMenodora]

I'm not sure which timeline we're in now, but I agree.

Reddit relies on these 'tiny number of moderators' to do all their work for them, and are now looking to go public. Do you suppose those mods will get any of the profits? No, reddit will try to act like the good guy here, when they're simply trying to make money off the service of these small number of users that keep reddit working. Those 3rd party applications also include admin/mod tools that help them do their job. Does anyone want to see reddit have no moderation and become 4chan? I don't, and I barely use reddit for ffxiv stuff.

I don’t view it that way personally. My understanding is that mods are volunteers who are just really passionate about the topic of the su they are in. What they get out of it is having a community for a hobby they enjoy. I haven’t seen any wanting such a role to get paid. I see people in various subs wanting to be mods all the time, and mods leaving the role when it no longer interests them. They also have no real standards of activity or level of involvement, unlike paid roles.

[ForteNightshade]

That’s how I feel. I don’t think a tiny number of moderators should be able to control if hundreds of thousands of people who use their subreddit get to engage with it. It’s pretty selfish. People should have their own decision if whatever is going on rises to the level of not using thr platform.

So if we found out SE was severely underpaying their GM team but were still within a legal threshold. In other words, they were being incredibly cheap but not doing anything illegal, and the GM team decided to go on strike. You'd side with SE in this hypothetical? After all, a full GM strike would be a massive inconvenience for the majority of users while only benefiting a small minority moderation team.

Reddit's CEO is playing on this exact mindset that the masses won't care that actually managing and moderating reddit will become significantly worse because they just want to poke around on the website. It isn't selfish whatsoever. The mod teams are essentially unpaid workers and are trying to protest a change which makes their job harder for no benefit to anyone else, users included, but to make a rich man richer.

[ZephyrMenodora]

So if we found out SE was severely underpaying their GM team but were still within a legal threshold. In other words, they were being incredibly cheap but not doing anything illegal, and the GM team decided to go on strike. You'd side with SE in this hypothetical? After all, a full GM strike would be a massive inconvenience for the majority of users while only benefiting a small minority moderation team.

Reddit's CEO is playing on this exact mindset that the masses won't care that actually managing and moderating reddit will become significantly worse because they just want to poke around on the website. It isn't selfish whatsoever. The mod teams are essentially unpaid workers and are trying to protest a change which makes their job harder for no benefit to anyone else, users included, but to make a rich man richer.

These aren't paid positions, they are volunteer positions. Collective bargaining for employees has nothing to do with volunteer moderating an internet forum. They can decide not to volunteer and move on.

Edit: In general though yes I would side with SE. Those GMs knew the hourly wage offered when they accepted employment. The marketplace solution if a request for a raise is denied is to find a higher paying job and leave, and if SE thought they had enough value they could counter. If the pay was vastly under market they'd probably also have a hard time keeping the role filled.