How can we reopen the FF14 subreddit?

[Boblawblah]

Yeah why would people protest to them ruining third party apps for the entire community, why dont they just sit there and let it happen, how passive can you be ? Not everyone is just a ragdoll like you letting things happen because it doesnt touch them directly, you are the selfish one.

I'm not sure which timeline we're in now, but I agree.

Reddit relies on these 'tiny number of moderators' to do all their work for them, and are now looking to go public. Do you suppose those mods will get any of the profits? No, reddit will try to act like the good guy here, when they're simply trying to make money off the service of these small number of users that keep reddit working. Those 3rd party applications also include admin/mod tools that help them do their job. Does anyone want to see reddit have no moderation and become 4chan? I don't, and I barely use reddit for ffxiv stuff.

[Mosha]

I'm not sure which timeline we're in now, but I agree.
Does anyone want to see reddit have no moderation and become 4chan? I don't, and I barely use reddit for ffxiv stuff.

God, it would be even more cringe than 4chan

[ZephyrMenodora]

I'm not sure which timeline we're in now, but I agree.

Reddit relies on these 'tiny number of moderators' to do all their work for them, and are now looking to go public. Do you suppose those mods will get any of the profits? No, reddit will try to act like the good guy here, when they're simply trying to make money off the service of these small number of users that keep reddit working. Those 3rd party applications also include admin/mod tools that help them do their job. Does anyone want to see reddit have no moderation and become 4chan? I don't, and I barely use reddit for ffxiv stuff.

I don’t view it that way personally. My understanding is that mods are volunteers who are just really passionate about the topic of the su they are in. What they get out of it is having a community for a hobby they enjoy. I haven’t seen any wanting such a role to get paid. I see people in various subs wanting to be mods all the time, and mods leaving the role when it no longer interests them. They also have no real standards of activity or level of involvement, unlike paid roles.

[Rowde]

Okay Tomer.

underrated

[NekoMataMata]

"please reopen the reddit for my convenience because i dont care about anything else but myself"

Isn't the blackout pretty selfish too? They had multiple options they could have worked on that wouldn't inconvenience others. Reddit has a large amount of useful data on it and right now that data is being held hostage.

When are people going to learn that dragging others into their protests by forcefully inconveniencing them is not going to make them want to support them but rather go against them instead?

[Saraide]

Isn't the blackout pretty selfish too? They had multiple options they could have worked on that wouldn't inconvenience others. Reddit has a large amount of useful data on it and right now that data is being held hostage.

When are people going to learn that dragging others into their protests by forcefully inconveniencing them is not going to make them want to support them but rather go against them instead?

What do you imagine would be a way that doesnt inconvenience users and still hurts the company?

[Boblawblah]

I have little sympathy for people that simply accept the status quo and accept any and all efforts by corporations to make their product less consumer friendly, and profit MORE off of the work of others. Keep it locked down I say. Force the CEO to dump all those moderators and see how reddit functions without them. If it holds up, hey, fair enough, but I don't think it'll be that simple.

[Shinkuno]

What do you imagine would be a way that doesnt inconvenience users and still hurts the company?

Well for one: this one didnt hurt the company either. And Reddit would have ALWAYS axed any current mods and replaced them before it hurt their bottom line. Did the power hungry internet janitors really think they can force Reddits hand? Like sorry but thats just being delusional.

I have little sympathy for people that simply accept the status quo and accept any and all efforts by corporations to make their product less consumer friendly, and profit MORE off of the work of others. Keep it locked down I say. Force the CEO to dump all those moderators and see how reddit functions without them. If it holds up, hey, fair enough, but I don't think it'll be that simple.

Really rich coming from someone always making fun of people criticizing the game and defending SE.

[NekoMataMata]

What do you imagine would be a way that doesnt inconvenience users and still hurts the company?

Work on migrating to literally any other platform or create a new platform. The resources are there and it's inevitable anyways.

It's like the people that are hosting this blackout don't realize why they're holding it. If Reddit doesn't change their mind about the API from what I know the site will just die. There would be no point in continuing because apparently even auto-moderation tools won't be there. And guess what? The CEO isn't going to change his mind. The only way he learns is when his site dies. You can either stay on that site which is a sinking ship and try to protest or you can do something that's actually productive.

As far as myself and anyone else is concerned you're putting an awful lot of work in for nothing when you could be working towards an actual solution that's not going to bother anyone.

[Saraide]

Well for one: this one didnt hurt the company either. And Reddit would have ALWAYS axed any current mods and replaced them before it hurt their bottom line. Did the power hungry internet janitors really think they can force Reddits hand? Like sorry but thats just being delusional.




Really rich coming from someone always making fun of people criticizing the game and defending SE.

They could have but they shot themselves in the foot by preemptively announcing an end date for the blackout. Reddit just needed to weather the storm for 2 days and most of the reddits already came back. They had power but they chose to not use it enough.