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    Because I do watch them, I see what's going on, and it's 100% the same like the multitude of other pvp games I have played.

    One I used to play was smite, they had bronze players show up in diamond player matches for placement matches (maybe that still happens, I dunno), and the diamond players on that team would lose most of the time when this happened for sure.
    But those diamond player would win more matches than losing, despite this happening.

    They would get hurled back into gold when seasons ended and a new one started, and they got out of gold no problem, having to endure the exact same matchmaking you're complaining about.
    It sucks, nobody is saying it's a good matchmaking system and it should be improved, but those skilled enough will get out of their branch and rank up to where they belong regardless.

    Whatever ranking in any pvp game you end up at is where you belong, and ff14 is no exception, and being angy and immature about it will keep you there if you don't look at what you can do to get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llynethil View Post
    Because I do watch them, I see what's going on, and it's 100% the same like the multitude of other pvp games I have played.

    One I used to play was smite, they had bronze players show up in diamond player matches for placement matches (maybe that still happens, I dunno), and the diamond players on that team would lose most of the time when this happened for sure.
    But those diamond player would win more matches than losing, despite this happening.

    They would get hurled back into gold when seasons ended and a new one started, and they got out of gold no problem, having to endure the exact same matchmaking you're complaining about.
    It sucks, nobody is saying it's a good matchmaking system and it should be improved, but those skilled enough will get out of their branch and rank up to where they belong regardless.

    Whatever ranking in any pvp game you end up at is where you belong, and ff14 is no exception, and being angy and immature about it will keep you there if you don't look at what you can do to get better.
    well i can confirm without a shadow of a doubt that you're wrong and that you must lack pattern recognition. sorry not sorrry.
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    The elitists just aren't capable of controlling themselves, or their attitudes. Half the time I don't think they're trolling and thats how they genuinely think, and behave. They have no regard for anyone else. This is amplified even further by the moderation on these forums being extremely lacking at the best of times.

    As for ranked itself I personally see no incentive to do the grind again beyond the mild entertainment it offers. It is best enjoyed like most things in moderation, and the rewards on offer aren't exciting enough for the likes of me. I do find it hilarious to enter ranked on alts with a big sprout slapped on their name and nothing but the ugliest mismatch ARR gear, and then carry games for as high as you can climb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    The elitists just aren't capable of controlling themselves, or their attitudes. Half the time I don't think they're trolling and thats how they genuinely think, and behave. They have no regard for anyone else. This is amplified even further by the moderation on these forums being extremely lacking at the best of times.

    As for ranked itself I personally see no incentive to do the grind again beyond the mild entertainment it offers. It is best enjoyed like most things in moderation, and the rewards on offer aren't exciting enough for the likes of me. I do find it hilarious to enter ranked on alts with a big sprout slapped on their name and nothing but the ugliest mismatch ARR gear, and then carry games for as high as you can climb.
    i went from bronze to plat in one day by playing casually lol and they keep lying to themselves about it being luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mi-Ly View Post
    If anything the ranking system is far too lenient. I'd rather remove streaks and players derank to unranked even if it kills the mode entirely.
    you know what, yeah kill ranked off even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mi-Ly View Post
    Can't kill what's already dead. Unsurprisingly, match quality is one of the many contributors to the lack of this game mode's success. Then you have unappealing rewards and a dated game engine unsuitable for PVP.
    lol true, ranked should have never existed imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mi-Ly View Post
    If anything the ranking system is far too lenient. I'd rather remove streaks and players derank to unranked even if it kills the mode entirely.
    I mean we essentially had that before the tier and stars system, that was how the Rating System in Feast worked. The only handholding there was the amount you lost when losing, which was -5, -10, -15, -20 and -25 from Bronze to Diamond as opposed to constant of +25 when winning.

    Match performance also added or subtracted a point or two from either winning or losing and dropping out of a tier had you stay below a minimum rating for five matches in a row.

    I kinda miss that system.
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