Why is the playerbase so mentally fragile now

[PercibelTheren]

I see we are participating in the time-honored tradition of complaining about people being snowflakes. Here's the thing - unless someone specifically asks for it, nobody wants to hear your feedback. Chances are, the person *knows* they messed up and the last thing they need is you pointing it out. I'm fine with it now but there was a time when I was much younger and your actions would upset me. I have anxiety, learning a new role or job is extremely stressful. Maybe this person was the same.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I see we are participating in the time-honored tradition of complaining about people being snowflakes. Here's the thing - unless someone specifically asks for it, nobody wants to hear your feedback. Chances are, the person *knows* they messed up and the last thing they need is you pointing it out. I'm fine with it now but there was a time when I was much younger and your actions would upset me. I have anxiety, learning a new role or job is extremely stressful. Maybe this person was the same.

The snowflake thing always confused me. It's like insulting people by calling them unique. Does that mean everyone else just has no personality? Hive mind? Idk.

[GaiusDrakon]

I have anxiety, learning a new role or job is extremely stressful

imagine getting stressed over a video game?

is this some gen z thing?

[PercibelTheren]

imagine getting stressed over a video game?

is this some gen z thing?

Nice one. I'm not gen Z, though, so it falls a little flat. I'm sorry you are so offended by the idea of someone getting emotionally invested in a game. When I play with other people, I don't want to be ruining their experience. It's that simple.

[Shinkuno]

I see we are participating in the time-honored tradition of complaining about people being snowflakes. Here's the thing - unless someone specifically asks for it, nobody wants to hear your feedback. Chances are, the person *knows* they messed up and the last thing they need is you pointing it out. I'm fine with it now but there was a time when I was much younger and your actions would upset me. I have anxiety, learning a new role or job is extremely stressful. Maybe this person was the same.

Yeah i bet the cure 3 spamming WHM bot KNOWS they are doing something wrong and they just decide to press the Cure 3 button instead of using Cure 2 instead. You are really detached from reality if you think most bad players know they are bad when everyone carries them to endgame and noone says a word.

[Stormpeaks]

I see we are participating in the time-honored tradition of complaining about people being snowflakes. Here's the thing - unless someone specifically asks for it, nobody wants to hear your feedback. Chances are, the person *knows* they messed up and the last thing they need is you pointing it out. I'm fine with it now but there was a time when I was much younger and your actions would upset me. I have anxiety, learning a new role or job is extremely stressful. Maybe this person was the same.

TLDR : "let me stay bad god damnit, i dont need your advice, i didnt ask for it, i want to stay bad!"

[IkaraGreydancer]

TLDR : "let me stay bad god damnit, i dont need your advice, i didnt ask for it, i want to stay bad!"

Classic stormy YET AGAIN misrepresenting what someone is saying. Literally NOWHERE did they say "let me stay bad"...the post boils down to "stay in your lane and help when asked". That's all they're really saying.

Also for people that complain the game is to easy, why then are yall complaining about bad players. If the content is so braindead why do bad players matter?

[GaiusDrakon]

Classic stormy YET AGAIN misrepresenting what someone is saying. Literally NOWHERE did they say "let me stay bad"...the post boils down to "stay in your lane and help when asked". That's all they're really saying.

Also for people that complain the game is to easy, why then are yall complaining about bad players. If the content is so braindead why do bad players matter?

because they're an eyesore, it's like watching a human landfill in front of your eyes for 15 minutes in the dungeon. and no one says a thing as the party list shows them casting cure iii over and over again

i'll keep offering unsolicited advice tyvm

you think snowflake players will ever ask on their own initiative? lmao

when people like you say "only offer advice when asked" it's = "never offer advice" because these bad players will never ask

beneath the surface though a lot of people agree with me. i actually get more comms on dps when i call out bad healers even when no one else said a word. sadly people are too afraid of offending the mentally fragile in this game.

[IkaraGreydancer]

because they're an eyesore, it's like watching a human landfill in front of your eyes for 15 minutes in the dungeon. and no one says a thing as the party list shows them casting cure iii over and over again

i'll keep offering unsolicited advice tyvm

you think snowflake players will ever ask on their own initiative? lmao

when people like you say "only offer advice when asked" it's = "never offer advice" because these bad players will never ask

Is the content getting cleared? Because if so your input isn't needed. Also as the "strong" person you claim to be seeing bad or underperforming players shouldnt bother you right? Calling these people landfills tells me how you probably go about adressing these people in game, and with that I'm not shocked people don't receive you well.
I've had to tell quite a few higher level whms that "Holy helps with big pull as it stuns mobs" as they weren't using it. None since my time in SB took that and got mad at me. Sure I've had a small number of them ignore but generally it's a "oh thank you", and things get better from there.

I'm a firm believer that more often than not its the approach thats the issue not solely the point out/people


Oh hold on didn't see the edit. I never once said I only give advice when asked. Hell I've said many times here before I give it when I see things going south, check my post history if you don't trust my word.

Again with the whole "snowflake" bs. Someone not wanting your input isn't a snowflake nor is someone telling you to leave em be. In my experience many don't ask for help because they've encountered asshats akin to you in the past so they dont feel comfy making that first step. Also I get comms as a dps to without even saying a word so for you to assume you get them due to callouts is funny. I guess you're saying it to further "prove" your point?
Also using the "alot of folks agree" doesn't really matter here cause I could say the same n yet you'd dismiss that. Just sayin

[Kaurhz]

Yep. Check out the old lost ark forums, or WoW forums, or any forums. They're crazy as hell. We're no different. Niche games or extreme moderation can avoid it, but it's rare.

It's in every community just in different forms, even outside of MMOs. e.g., you could go play Call of Duty and within 3 lobbies you'd already apparently have seven parents. Equally, I could go around on Battlefield, use a shotgun and within 40 minutes have a good half-sized enemy team crying that life isn't fair. Similarly, could do the exact same and have people raging in games like MK. Let's not forget about a certain meme of "Buying GF" either.

Moderation only solves so much e.g., people learning to skirt the ToS more, or just being more passive about matters rather than 'openly aggressive' - It really doesn't matter the only difference is people are masking it. Fragility would still be there, just in a different form.

This will come across as a bit of a weird one in wording but... This game just sounds worse than some others because some people may always speak of it being the best community ever etc., to the point where if something goes bad, it circulates and then the topic gets beaten, resurrected, and beaten once again. Whereas in some other communities, the expectancy of what can occur in the general community is a lot more exposed.

Edit:
Niche communities and games don't really avoid it either, the only luxury they have is that when something happens, it is probably only limited to a handful of people being in the know etc.,