Why is the playerbase so mentally fragile now

[PercibelTheren]

imagine getting stressed over a video game?

is this some gen z thing?

Nice one. I'm not gen Z, though, so it falls a little flat. I'm sorry you are so offended by the idea of someone getting emotionally invested in a game. When I play with other people, I don't want to be ruining their experience. It's that simple.

[Shinkuno]

I see we are participating in the time-honored tradition of complaining about people being snowflakes. Here's the thing - unless someone specifically asks for it, nobody wants to hear your feedback. Chances are, the person *knows* they messed up and the last thing they need is you pointing it out. I'm fine with it now but there was a time when I was much younger and your actions would upset me. I have anxiety, learning a new role or job is extremely stressful. Maybe this person was the same.

Yeah i bet the cure 3 spamming WHM bot KNOWS they are doing something wrong and they just decide to press the Cure 3 button instead of using Cure 2 instead. You are really detached from reality if you think most bad players know they are bad when everyone carries them to endgame and noone says a word.

[Stormpeaks]

I see we are participating in the time-honored tradition of complaining about people being snowflakes. Here's the thing - unless someone specifically asks for it, nobody wants to hear your feedback. Chances are, the person *knows* they messed up and the last thing they need is you pointing it out. I'm fine with it now but there was a time when I was much younger and your actions would upset me. I have anxiety, learning a new role or job is extremely stressful. Maybe this person was the same.

TLDR : "let me stay bad god damnit, i dont need your advice, i didnt ask for it, i want to stay bad!"

[IkaraGreydancer]

TLDR : "let me stay bad god damnit, i dont need your advice, i didnt ask for it, i want to stay bad!"

Classic stormy YET AGAIN misrepresenting what someone is saying. Literally NOWHERE did they say "let me stay bad"...the post boils down to "stay in your lane and help when asked". That's all they're really saying.

Also for people that complain the game is to easy, why then are yall complaining about bad players. If the content is so braindead why do bad players matter?

[GaiusDrakon]

Classic stormy YET AGAIN misrepresenting what someone is saying. Literally NOWHERE did they say "let me stay bad"...the post boils down to "stay in your lane and help when asked". That's all they're really saying.

Also for people that complain the game is to easy, why then are yall complaining about bad players. If the content is so braindead why do bad players matter?

because they're an eyesore, it's like watching a human landfill in front of your eyes for 15 minutes in the dungeon. and no one says a thing as the party list shows them casting cure iii over and over again

i'll keep offering unsolicited advice tyvm

you think snowflake players will ever ask on their own initiative? lmao

when people like you say "only offer advice when asked" it's = "never offer advice" because these bad players will never ask

beneath the surface though a lot of people agree with me. i actually get more comms on dps when i call out bad healers even when no one else said a word. sadly people are too afraid of offending the mentally fragile in this game.

[IkaraGreydancer]

because they're an eyesore, it's like watching a human landfill in front of your eyes for 15 minutes in the dungeon. and no one says a thing as the party list shows them casting cure iii over and over again

i'll keep offering unsolicited advice tyvm

you think snowflake players will ever ask on their own initiative? lmao

when people like you say "only offer advice when asked" it's = "never offer advice" because these bad players will never ask

Is the content getting cleared? Because if so your input isn't needed. Also as the "strong" person you claim to be seeing bad or underperforming players shouldnt bother you right? Calling these people landfills tells me how you probably go about adressing these people in game, and with that I'm not shocked people don't receive you well.
I've had to tell quite a few higher level whms that "Holy helps with big pull as it stuns mobs" as they weren't using it. None since my time in SB took that and got mad at me. Sure I've had a small number of them ignore but generally it's a "oh thank you", and things get better from there.

I'm a firm believer that more often than not its the approach thats the issue not solely the point out/people


Oh hold on didn't see the edit. I never once said I only give advice when asked. Hell I've said many times here before I give it when I see things going south, check my post history if you don't trust my word.

Again with the whole "snowflake" bs. Someone not wanting your input isn't a snowflake nor is someone telling you to leave em be. In my experience many don't ask for help because they've encountered asshats akin to you in the past so they dont feel comfy making that first step. Also I get comms as a dps to without even saying a word so for you to assume you get them due to callouts is funny. I guess you're saying it to further "prove" your point?
Also using the "alot of folks agree" doesn't really matter here cause I could say the same n yet you'd dismiss that. Just sayin

[Stormpeaks]

Classic stormy YET AGAIN misrepresenting what someone is saying. Literally NOWHERE did they say "let me stay bad"...the post boils down to "stay in your lane and help when asked". That's all they're really saying.

Also for people that complain the game is to easy, why then are yall complaining about bad players. If the content is so braindead why do bad players matter?

Ok smarty pants, so if no one has the right to tell you that you are underperforming, and that parses are banned, how are you going to know that you are underperforming ?

[IkaraGreydancer]

Ok smarty pants, so if no one has the right to tell you that you are underperforming, and that parses are banned, how are you going to know that you are underperforming ?

I simply clarified what that person was saying as you constantly skew what folks are saying. I even said myself I don't wait til I'm asked. As a mentor I point out issues again when things go south but I go about it respectfully. I'll either make a point of it or ask if folks need any pointers.
So this whole "no one has the right to tell you" bit makes no sense when it comes to me.

I personally didn't need some elaborate tool to show me how I was doing. As a tank I use the aggro meter to judge that. If I'm similarly geared to my CO tank yet struggle to keep aggro they're clearly better and I have work to do.
But thats just me. Some don't care to get better and that's alright

[Stormpeaks]

Classic stormy YET AGAIN misrepresenting what someone is saying. Literally NOWHERE did they say "let me stay bad"...the post boils down to "stay in your lane and help when asked". That's all they're really saying.

Also for people that complain the game is to easy, why then are yall complaining about bad players. If the content is so braindead why do bad players matter?

Reposting this bc of new page and I want a response to this

If you are unable to

- Make comments, tell people to improve, that they are underperforming, that they are the problem in the group because they are not doing enough DPS, healing or tanking badly
- Parses are banned and entirely forbidden

How is random Johnny supposed to know they are performing absolutely terrible, if people cant make comments to them, and that they actually cant see it ? How are you going to question your own abilities and your own skill at a job if you have no tools to even see that you are underperforming ?

[Ranaku]

Reposting this bc of new page and I want a response to this

If you are unable to

- Make comments, tell people to improve, that they are underperforming, that they are the problem in the group because they are not doing enough DPS, healing or tanking badly
- Parses are banned and entirely forbidden

How is random Johnny supposed to know they are performing absolutely terrible, if people cant make comments to them, and that they actually cant see it ? How are you going to question your own abilities and your own skill at a job if you have no tools to even see that you are underperforming ?

There is a difference between "lol u suck" and actually helping people with non toxic comments. But what most people and probably you to understand under helping is telling people that their parses are low and that they should just quit and git gud and maybe unsub from life when you feel extra toxic today.

If you "help" in a unfriendly way people won't listen especially cause out of spite. I remember when all the folks here cried about the community guideline changes that now say that you need to suggest things to people and not just demand or belittle them.

So yeah, it's not about the if but instead more about the how.