On Themis [6.4 SPOILER]

[Kozh]

The one thing we have learned, as observers to the story, is that there is no averting that fate. They have been through it, and the fact that we are here in the modern day of the story proves that they have already been through it.

It's even touched on here as a "well, it happened, we're here and now we need to pick up the pieces and save this world now" – and on our final visit to the past, are under direct instructions from Lahabrea to not tell his past self anything.

From the WoL's perspective, if they chose to interfere, they would not prevent that suffering from happening, but would create a second world that is going to have its own new array of suffering, while at the same time cutting themselves off from (and for all they know, potentially destroying) their original world and all their friends. And they still would have not actually saved the Ascians from what they went through.

It was – barely – acceptable to do that to the 8UE timeline when they genuinely thought the world was going to be destroyed and everyone would be wiped out either way. But doing that to a living world wouldn't be heroic at all.

Plus, we're simply locked into the game as well as a narrative. We can't abandon this game setting for a new timeline.

Unfortunately for you, what the Ironworks of 8UC did is seen as heroic and the right thing to do. Both by the game and the players. So if that's not hypocrisy, I don't know what else.

And frankly, I don't really buy they thinking "oh no mankind is finished", when we don't know if Black Rose reach lands outside of Eorzea. But regardless, it's still a living world where people born, live, and die. The Ironworks should've forge ahead instead of seeking salvation on a different timeline they created.

[Lord_Umbra]

Unfortunately for you, what the Ironworks of 8UC did is seen as heroic and the right thing to do. Both by the game and the players. So if that's not hypocrisy, I don't know what else.

And frankly, I don't really buy they thinking "oh no mankind is finished", when we don't know if Black Rose reach lands outside of Eorzea. But regardless, it's still a living world where people born, live, and die. The Ironworks should've forge ahead instead of seeking salvation on a different timeline they created.

I mean they still have to forge ahead the short story they put out reveals that world didn't vanish so that timeline still exist, nothing we did saved that timeline nor erased it which possibly means we weren't the WoL from that time line & Graha ended up travelling to the wrong timeline since our timeline has Zenos who stops Black Rose which means Zenos probably stayed dead in Black Rose time line.

[Kozh]

I mean they still have to forge ahead the short story they put out reveals that world didn't vanish so that timeline still exist, nothing we did saved that timeline nor erased it which possibly means we weren't the WoL from that time line & Graha ended up travelling to the wrong timeline since our timeline has Zenos who stops Black Rose which means Zenos probably stayed dead in Black Rose time line.

Well they're forced to forge ahead when all is said and done and turns out they weren't erased. My point is, if they decided to forge ahead since the start, they won't be looking at means to time travel and "let history be unwritten".

[MikkoAkure]

Unfortunately for you, what the Ironworks of 8UC did is seen as heroic and the right thing to do. Both by the game and the players. So if that's not hypocrisy, I don't know what else.

And frankly, I don't really buy they thinking "oh no mankind is finished", when we don't know if Black Rose reach lands outside of Eorzea. But regardless, it's still a living world where people born, live, and die. The Ironworks should've forge ahead instead of seeking salvation on a different timeline they created.

We do know that Black Rose reached outside Eorzea because the cutscene where the 8UC is brought up by Urianger, he mentions that Black Rose spread throughout the Empire too and then it killed the soil itself. He also says the subsequent violence spread to "every corner of the world" and nations ceased to exist in "an age of endless war" so it was truly a worldwide calamity.

The people of the Ironworks decided that their world was doomed, and it very well could be in the long run since the Ascians are free to run amok and Hydaelyn has less power in that timeline. It's in that backdrop that they decided to throw a light to the past to make a new timeline. In the original timeline, the Ascians will probably eventually complete the Rejoining and Emet-Selch, Hythlodeus, and Elidibus would be reunited and free to hold hands and skip into the sunset if that's what you're looking for.