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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    I was about to reply, but the moment guy compared FFXIV's RDM to Aion's Chanter, I just gave up, man didn't even play Aion and yet is trying to make comparisons lol
    Oh, you have chosen...poorly.

    You made a comparison you then said yourself was invalid. I said closest to as far as I can tell. YES, I didn't play Aion because it's a dead game and I liked other games better. That's why I'm not the one comparing Aion to FFXIV.

    What this post is really saying:

    "I was going to reply, but realized I had no counter to the arguments made, so I'm not going to but am going to present my non-argument as if I won."

    Futurama - Will of the warrior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMdYZG_gdwI
    "No girl has the will of the warrior. You have the will of the housewife. Or, at best, the school mom."
    "That's it! I'll take you on right now!"
    "Very well. But, you see, I have the will of the warrior. Therefore the battle is already over. The winner? Me! Rematch? YOU LOSE AGAIN! HAD ENOUGH?! I THOUGHT SO!"

    When you frame your argument as "I don't have to have an argument", then that's this stupidity.

    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    You would be incorrect. During the time I played Aion, from closed beta up until around the end of 2021 (so if memory serves that would be 12 years) , on a number of classes including both cleric and chanter, as classes were adjusted, and instances, aside some exceptionally difficult PVE content or PVP matches, a chanter could solo heal , and that left the group free to do whatever they wanted - sometimes to bring a DPS cleric - since a decently geared DPS spec cleric was once of the highest DPS in the game- OR bring another DPS.
    Yay! You actually contested...a small part of...the point: That the Chanter could be considered a Healer, which is 100% in line with my statement that it sounds like the kind of FFXIV AST in HW.

    Congratulations for agreeing with me even while you were mocking me.

    The phrase you're looking for would be "You would be correct, more or less", not "You would be incorrect".

    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Also, in some conditions, a songweaver could also solo heal a group , given the correct spec as well but that spec was quite rare (i.e. usually SW went DPS spec) . However it was quite possible.
    So...KINDA like...a...RDM...

    Thanks for telling me I'm right again without saying I'm right again.

    It's funny how you insist I'm talking out my butt...but then say the things I said are correct, just while trying not to word it that way. XD

    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    It's par for the course.
    So are people like that not having arguments.

    Point is, someone made a stupid comparison, then when called on it, didn't even bother trying to defend it.

    .

    Can you provide any evidence that people who play SUPPORT roles in 4-role games all play HEALERS in 3-role Trinity games?

    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    SOURCE CITATION AND FIVE DIFFERENT ACADEMIC JOURNAL ARTICLES REQUIRED.

    *Not required if it supports Ren's argument about the majority of the playerbase liking X.
    /popcorn

    I straight up said what information is needed. Asking for a trend instead of a single data point isn't "FIVE DIFFERENT ACADEMIC JOURNALS". Moreover, when I am making arguments, I do cite data such as player numbers AND historic trends. So I'm asking him to do nothing that I don't do myself when I provide data to support positions.

    "You lose again!"
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