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  1. #2511
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I can't wait to wear the new raid gear with headgear...

    Oh wait, I forgot SE doesn't really care about Viera or Hroths and just keeps doing this every patch. At least we got a couple hastily ported hairstyles that give us a 5head! Totally makes up for it!
    It'll be really fun when 7.0 hits, hats aren't fixed, more unwearable hats are released for job gear, and on top of that every pre-SHB race will have their textures and models updated to be better than Viera and Hroth.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 05-20-2023 at 01:31 AM.

  2. #2512
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    Caro Calise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Not defending the headgear situation, but the hairstyles chosen look completely fine. They don't give massive foreheads that are disproportionate to the other races. They look the same on us as they do everybody else. The male hairstyle in particular suits that character really well and I see it being a fairly popular choice.





    For the record I've seen Viera and Hrothgar sporting every single new hair addition at some point even the ones I personally dislike.
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  3. #2513
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    Xi'anthi Rongallia
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Speaking to hats I feel like part of the reason hrothgar at least cant wear anything...you'd want to wear (No yoshi I do not to wear full helms ever for any reason I like my gars face let me wear fashionable chapeaus) is because hroth were designed in the most amazingly terrible way you could design a race.
    The hairlock is known but the hairlock was an issue because for reason no man or woman or god himself could ever begin to parse the design team thought to make every hrothgars headshape marginally different from each other. You cant really tell in game but this is what I know from reading some m*dders posts. He hroth face had a slightly different headshape that I cant fathom why you would ever design a race that way. "Oh well theyre all different species haha" ok but like...you deliberately screwed a player race out of not only a whole gearslot but also its own racial hair. Thats unbelievable I cant understand why you would hurt players like that.

    So now (we assume based on one 144p printout) we can assume going forward for hrothgar anyway hats will begin to work. Well Id like to anyway. Id adore 6.5 getting here, going to my dresser and seeing some hats actually fit my dangt head. Like imagine if 6.5 gear previews showed hroth wearing a hat that also had a hair model omg I'd finally simp for the devs.

    But I EXPECT hats wont work til femgar get here in 7.0, and hroth and viera will both bw awed and amazed at getting an entire new expansions worth of hats that finally work.

    As for viera I assume hats dont work bc they dont wanna bother with ears (see like 50% of miqote headpieces) but then viera can wear like the Crypt hoods or the Heroes Gauntlet/Ktisis edgelord helms with their ootseycutesy wabbit ears out looking totally inappropriate in an edgy glam so who actually knows
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  4. #2514
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by XianRo View Post
    As for viera I assume hats dont work bc they dont wanna bother with ears (see like 50% of miqote headpieces) but then viera can wear like the Crypt hoods or the Heroes Gauntlet/Ktisis edgelord helms with their ootseycutesy wabbit ears out looking totally inappropriate in an edgy glam so who actually knows
    It seems to be an issue with hair rather than ears. Any hats that do work are ones that fully conceal the character's hair, or else small ones that don't afffect it at all. Anything that needs to turn off only the top half of the hair model doesn't work.
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  5. #2515
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    XianRo's Avatar
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    Xi'anthi Rongallia
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It seems to be an issue with hair rather than ears. Any hats that do work are ones that fully conceal the character's hair, or else small ones that don't afffect it at all. Anything that needs to turn off only the top half of the hair model doesn't work.
    You're right of course. According to someone who did a hat mod for viera the "flag" ingame to make hats appear is turned off.
    I would ask "why cant we just use hats with any nonracial hair we've gotten?" but Im sure you cant create separate flags that are dependent on players hair. They need to make behatted hair models for base hroth and viera hair in the first place.
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  6. #2516
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    Pip Chick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    Patch note drop confirmed the six 6.2 Viera hairstyles for Hrothgar as well as two of the six old-new ones Viera will be getting. They look really good and I'll probably use this braid for a while assuming nothing else of interest is added. There was nothing in the patch notes about any brand new styles for all races, sadly.





    Also: nothing in the patch notes about changes to Hrothgar's character creation, but there is a section about character creation and this would not be the first time they've silently made changes without including them in patch notes. The same thing happened when they gave Hrothgars access to change their hairstyles without the use of a Fantasia in 6.1 and it caused a lot of debate about whether or not the new customization options would be free like they are for everybody else or locked behind the same paywall.
    Finally, some good hairs for Viera that don't give you guys an aeroplane landing forehead! Those hairs for Hrothgar look good too, but no news on the unlocking of the racial hair. I will hold out hope and choose to believe we will just get the hairs Viera got last time without any unlocks. I hope to be wrong, but I would rather not get my hopes up.
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  7. #2517
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    Cinnabun Arulaq
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by XianRo View Post
    You're right of course. According to someone who did a hat mod for viera the "flag" ingame to make hats appear is turned off.
    I would ask "why cant we just use hats with any nonracial hair we've gotten?" but Im sure you cant create separate flags that are dependent on players hair. They need to make behatted hair models for base hroth and viera hair in the first place.
    There are multiple hairstyles of the previous races that as soon as they put certain hats on, the hair changes form or gets tucked in and you only see the fringes for example, so I can’t see why they won’t do the same with us.
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  8. #2518
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    Pip Chick
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    So I was scrolling through the patch notes and... OMG IS THAT A HROTHGAR WITH A HAT?????

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  9. #2519
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    So I was scrolling through the patch notes and... OMG IS THAT A HROTHGAR WITH A HAT?????

    It's the WAR 89 gear, I believe that one always worked on Hrothgar?
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  10. #2520
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    It's the WAR 89 gear, I believe that one always worked on Hrothgar?
    Yup, the helmet that made us think things would be better in EW, ohhh how innocent we were :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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