Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
Oh, you know about healing, Roe. You just enjoy DPSing and particularly non-healing support more. You've even said it yourself in basically every conversation we've ever had on the topic of what you enjoy about healers, both here in FFXIV, in other MMOs, and in non-MMOs like D&D/Baldur's Gate/etc. Getting mad at someone for pointing out your own views is just strange. Especially since that person isn't attacking those positions.

As I have said: There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Nor have I ever said there was. The "real healer" argument was your and Semi's, not mine. I've long embraced going back to the ARR model of Pure (WHM) + Support (SCH) Healer so we can have both existing in the same space, or baring that, making Support an actual full role (which I fully expect will never happen). You and she are the only ones arguing different.
See what I mean about Sylphies defining anyone better than them at healing as Not Real Healers? The consistency is fascinating.

There's this weird cognitive dissonance world they live in where you can never get it through to them that spamming healing spells for their own sake isn't how efficiency works. And that the better you get at healing, the more of your time is spent in your downtime. And since you spend more and more time in your downtime, you'd like that downtime to be engaging.

They will, without fail, always, spin that into "oh so you like the non-healing side of your kit more huh? So you're not a HEALer then, you spend more time SUPPORTING/being a DPS in sheep's clothing! Aha!"

My theory is that they've defined exactly where they're at as the "correct" amount of skilled one needs to be at healing, and anyone who likes pushing their limits otherwise is "not actually a healer" for some ego reason or something.

I have mained a healer in every online game and most of the offline games I've played. But no, since I don't enjoy giving myself an RSI and killing brain cells spamming Glare on field mobs while I "weave all of my heals" on myself, I don't know what the true healing trenches are like.

I prefer to wave all of that fluff away and look at the line in the sand. It's A L W A Y S "don't you dare make (downtime) more intensive". You know, the part of the kit they just finished saying they don't like, or don't like engaging with, or isn't "important". You could suggest a thousand different ways to do so and make the current 121111111111 gameplay near-equivalent to a rotation that somewhat activates your brain. Doesn't matter. Don't care. Someone, somewhere, will "judge" them for not being perfect because they're dirty evil elitist casual-hating raiders.

And then the insecurity that's behind their entire position neatly reveals itself. Every time.