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  1. #11
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    StarRosie's Avatar
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    Sakya Malha
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    What do you mean no healers? There's a Red Mage right there!
    AND A WARRIOR! They have plenty of healing to go around. Honestly those PLDs casting Clemency are throwing. Don't they know Clemency is just 1HP of healing?!

    /s to be safe.
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  2. #12
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I rarely (if ever) get into the whole Healer convo because I really enjoy SCH as is, but... if this isn't a red flag, I don't know what is

    Something definitely is broken if this is possible to do at all.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 05-18-2023 at 12:47 PM.

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    Yuki Yagami
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    AND A WARRIOR! They have plenty of healing to go around. Honestly those PLDs casting Clemency are throwing. Don't they know Clemency is just 1HP of healing?!

    /s to be safe.
    Don't forget DNC and...SMN
    Holy fudge tho.
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  4. #14
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    I rarely (if ever) get into the whole Healer convo because I really enjoy SCH as is, but... if this isn't a red flag, I don't know what is

    Something definitely is broken if this is possible to do at all.
    Agreed. It's something that takes exceptional coordination. However, the idea they could replace an entire role with the self-sustain from other classes is just completely broken. Especially a role that they've continuously said they want to have focus on healing. We're not being allowed to do our own role. I don't do this level of content but I've derped in a party before with a RDM or SMN and the group just leaves me on the floor because they don't need me. It's an awful feeling.
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  5. #15
    Player Troxbark's Avatar
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    Trox Bark
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    Just quit healing, play a DPS.

    Nothing's gonna get done if SE thinks people still like playing healers
    Then they just give other roles more self sustain. That's what got healers in this situation to begin with, lol.
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  6. #16
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Agreed. It's something that takes exceptional coordination. However, the idea they could replace an entire role with the self-sustain from other classes is just completely broken. Especially a role that they've continuously said they want to have focus on healing. We're not being allowed to do our own role. I don't do this level of content but I've derped in a party before with a RDM or SMN and the group just leaves me on the floor because they don't need me. It's an awful feeling.
    I'm not even the type that wants a bunch of DPS buttons back, I wanna interact more with my Fairy. I keep imagining this system that's like XII or XIII where we work on the Fairy's AI before content for her to fulfill different roles depending on the situation, and maybe like in XIII we can switch her to a "DPS Mode" just like the Schemata system. So then she starts buffing people or throwing little DOTs of herself, and then we switch back to Heal Mode when the situation calls for it... or something, I dunno. There was this time on a regular dungeon where I died to something the boss did, and I don't quite remember what it was, but what I remember is that the Warrior couldn't care less if I was alive or not. He solo healed himself and the party cleared the boss, which is great but... it also isn't. I shrugged it off at the time, but it's hardly an isolated case. And again: I enjoy SCH as is, but something is just off when these situations are becoming more common.
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  7. #17
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    Feline Good
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Joy. Now we're going to have to deal with SE making judgements on the game because of midcore players taking the actions of top tier players who are playing the highest tier of combat duties as law.
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  8. #18
    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Gaius Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Troxbark View Post
    Then they just give other roles more self sustain. That's what got healers in this situation to begin with, lol.
    Yeah OK EW baby the issues began long before tank buffs
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  9. #19
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    Just quit healing, play a DPS.

    Nothing's gonna get done if SE thinks people still like playing healers
    Honestly from my position, that's pretty much what happened in Savage at least. All the hardcore healers I know from way back have quit/switched at this point.

    This game still has enough new people coming in that they just get replaced by the next wave.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  10. #20
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Honestly from my position, that's pretty much what happened in Savage at least. All the hardcore healers I know from way back have quit/switched at this point.

    This game still has enough new people coming in that they just get replaced by the next wave.
    I healed 5.4, played tank for 6.0 then played healer again in 6.2

    All i can say, is never expect me to play healer again.
    It is the most boring, unrewarding role in the game.

    Oh you are doing a lot of damage? Well not anymore, two DPS just screwed up and its your job to babysit them while they take 150k bleed damage over 15 seconds.

    Even pressing LB3 as a healer feels bad, because you know the only reason your group is clearing a fight is because YOU did the mechanics right, and they all greeded and died, yet your still not getting rewarded for that, Gear goes to the DPS and Tanks, even if you are the reason they cleared.
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