I'm up for discussion all day long, it's good fun. Where I draw the line is when people build their point around completely ungrounded speculation with nothing to back it up and proceed to double down when presented with cold hard numbers to the contrary. That's been a thing on these forums pretty much since the beginning.

A big +1 on the toxic casualism thing. Honestly I don't think it's anything like as bad as it used to be back in ARR and HW though. Oh man was it rife and the healer role seemed to get it in the neck the most.