Samurai AoE

[Leifei]

Sure, its performance is fine. Everything else about it is not. Spamming shinten and auto crits hitting like wet noodles is not enjoyable.

That's subjective. I'm enjoying the job. Kaiten was just button bloat and the addition of the new techniques from lv 80-90 make up for it.

[CelestiCer]

Kaiten was just button bloat and the addition of the new techniques from lv 80-90 make up for it.

Yes its not that they had the skills Hissatsu: Guren and Senei needlessly split... it's not Shoha I and Shoha II just being a combined Skill, it's obviously not that Ikishoten should just turn into Ogi Namikiri, its obviously Kaiten thats the button bloat here out of every other button we could have removed or merged. Yup.

[Leifei]

Yes its not that they had the skills Hissatsu: Guren and Senei needlessly split... it's not Shoha I and Shoha II just being a combined Skill, it's obviously not that Ikishoten should just turn into Ogi Namikiri, its obviously Kaiten thats the button bloat here out of every other button we could have removed or merged. Yup.

So you disagree with me. That's fine. Different strokes for different folks.

[CelestiCer]

So you disagree with me. That's fine. Different strokes for different folks.

Very True.
Some players also couldn't handle a singular skill they themselves mocked as Button Bloat or a button we press every time and somehow still miss-manage it. We can see how spamming a singular skill can be more appealing for some then others. There's no shame in it, mhm.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Very True.
Some players also couldn't handle a singular skill they themselves mocked as Button Bloat or a button we press every time and somehow still miss-manage it. We can see how spamming a singular skill can be more appealing for some then others. There's no shame in it, mhm.

I just found it boring. I've actually been doing worse on SAM since it's removal. Ironically I did best when SAM was worst off in 4.x.



Not saying shinten spam is better. I think SAM needs a rework personally. But I don't think kaiten is the answer.

[Leifei]

Very True.
Some players also couldn't handle a singular skill they themselves mocked as Button Bloat or a button we press every time and somehow still miss-manage it. We can see how spamming a singular skill can be more appealing for some then others. There's no shame in it, mhm.

Who are you talking about?

[Ransu]

Who are you talking about?

You, obviously.

[Ransu]

That's subjective. I'm enjoying the job. Kaiten was just button bloat and the addition of the new techniques from lv 80-90 make up for it.

If you want to spam one button with no resource management go play SMN.

[Leifei]

If you want to spam one button with no resource management go play SMN.

Oho, a random on the internet telling me what to go play. I'm totally going to listen....not. Keep moaning about Kaiten. It's gone bud.

[Amenara]

That's subjective. I'm enjoying the job. Kaiten was just button bloat and the addition of the new techniques from lv 80-90 make up for it.

I think there were better ways to remove button bloat than getting rid of what little resource management there was with Samurai...