What happened in the last week to make people so vocally against the current state?

[Stormpeaks]

Et toi, Stormpeaks?

Except I dont pretend the game is THAT amazing and that there is SO much content in the game, I enjoy housing and hanging out with friends, so I have more than enough time for the forums

Anything else ?

[EliaStormblade]

Except I dont pretend the game is THAT amazing and that there is SO much content in the game, I enjoy housing and hanging out with friends, so I have more than enough time for the forums

Anything else ?

Obsessively stalking the forums of a game you harbor only negative feelings for with nigh-religious fervor out of sheer disgruntlement sure sounds like the makings of a sound mind.

Anything else?

[Stormpeaks]

Obsessively stalking the forums of a game you harbor only negative feelings for with nigh-religious fervor out of sheer disgruntlement sure sounds like the makings of a sound mind.

Anything else?

Are you okay ? Lmao

[Jojoya]

Perhaps it is, but it's far from your place to call it out. Doubly so when one considers your usual cadence and tone. When you're constantly calling people you disagree with bitter and disenfranchised doomers, is it any wonder people completely uninvolved eventually get fed up with it? That's a far more likely prospect of why Lunaxia is posting after you.



Ah, well. I suppose I have no proof, it just felt like a narrative was being constructed by a few posters here whose conduct rather rubs me the wrong way. If I'm proven wrong, I'm perfectly willing to recant mind.

Eeesh, honestly this is such a stormy time to join the forums.

They're not the only ones who feel like there's not enough content they want to do. But most MMO veterans who are rapid or picky content consumers understand that's the nature of MMOs and aren't bothered by it. They do what they're interested in then go play other games until the next content release. They don't run to the forums with "game is dying".

The vocal ones here in the forums seem to fall into mainly one of two camps: the ones who say the game has been trash for years (and yet continue to pay money for the trash game). It's hard to see those as anything but trolls but it's possible they're suffering from a gaming addiction and can't let go.

Then there are the ones who say the problem is only with Endwalker. If someone was spending all their time in Eureka and Bozja last expansion and dislike Deep Dungeons/Variant-Criterion dungeons, I can understand why they feel like there's not enough content they are personally interested in.

The claims of less overall content are false. We've been getting just as much content but the type of content or format (ie the trials not being a separate series but instead part of the MSQ) has changed in some cases. It's not a sign of a game in decline.

Some may be the feeling the change of pace to the story. We had been warned that was going to happen at the 2021 Announcement Showcase before Endwalker was released. We were told that with the Hydaelyn/Zodiark story being concluded in 6.0 instead of 6.3, the 6.x story was going to be more of a filler before the new main story arc for 7.0 was introduced in 6.55. Again, not a sign of a game in decline. It's just the result of the transition we were warned would be coming since 7.0 is presumably also going to introduce the promised new starting point for new characters.

Perhaps these people don't take to change easily and that's why all the doom and gloom. It's still gotten to be over the top, bitter, sarcastic, etc. and most of all annoying. There's no constructive discussion coming from it, just a lot of insults and ridicule of those who aren't seeing a problem.

Except I dont pretend the game is THAT amazing and that there is SO much content in the game, I enjoy housing and hanging out with friends, so I have more than enough time for the forums

Anything else ?

Except there is a huge amount of content. Ask those trying to tackle it for the first time.

That you aren't interested in any of it other than housing doesn't mean the content doesn't exist.

[Stormpeaks]

They're not the only ones who feel like there's not enough content they want to do. But most MMO veterans who are rapid or picky content consumers understand that's the nature of MMOs and aren't bothered by it. They do what they're interested in then go play other games until the next content release. They don't run to the forums with "game is dying".

The vocal ones here in the forums seem to fall into mainly one of two camps: the ones who say the game has been trash for years (and yet continue to pay money for the trash game). It's hard to see those as anything but trolls but it's possible they're suffering from a gaming addiction and can't let go.

Then there are the ones who say the problem is only with Endwalker. If someone was spending all their time in Eureka and Bozja last expansion and dislike Deep Dungeons/Variant-Criterion dungeons, I can understand why they feel like there's not enough content they are personally interested in.

The claims of less overall content are false. We've been getting just as much content but the type of content or format (ie the trials not being a separate series but instead part of the MSQ) has changed in some cases. It's not a sign of a game in decline.

Some may be the feeling the change of pace to the story. We had been warned that was going to happen at the 2021 Announcement Showcase before Endwalker was released. We were told that with the Hydaelyn/Zodiark story being concluded in 6.0 instead of 6.3, the 6.x story was going to be more of a filler before the new main story arc for 7.0 was introduced in 6.55. Again, not a sign of a game in decline. It's just the result of the transition we were warned would be coming since 7.0 is presumably also going to introduce the promised new starting point for new characters.

Perhaps these people don't take to change easily and that's why all the doom and gloom. It's still gotten to be over the top, bitter, sarcastic, etc. and most of all annoying. There's no constructive discussion coming from it, just a lot of insults and ridicule of those who aren't seeing a problem.




Except there is a huge amount of content. Ask those trying to tackle it for the first time.

That you aren't interested in any of it other than housing doesn't mean the content doesn't exist.

Also lol @ "Ask those trying to tackle it for the first time."

That's literally the point, if you played this game for a while, there is nothing left to do because 95% of the game is old outdated content, and no, sorry not sorry, roulettes are not content, it's the same boring thing in which you end up with 2 or 3 spells because its a low level dungeon or raid, because oh my god the entertainment of using 2 spells in a dungeon or raid, how fun

[Jojoya]

That's literally the point, if you played this game for a while, there is nothing left to do because 95% of the game is old outdated content, and no, sorry not sorry, roulettes are not content, it's the same boring thing in which you end up with 2 or 3 spells because its a low level dungeon or raid, because oh my god the entertainment of using 2 spells in a dungeon or raid, how fun

It's okay to say it doesn't appeal to you as content.

Trying to deny that it's content when clearly it is doesn't help your argument at all. And you're free to avoid the low level content if you don't enjoy it.

Pandaemonium, EX trials, Myths of the Realm, PvP, Eureka Orthos, Criterion Dungeon, Ultimate raids, etc. None of those are limiting you to 2 or 3 buttons.

You really need to lay off that copium you're sucking down. It could explain why the only thing you do in game is play with your houses instead of doing other content the game has.

[R041]

It's okay to say it doesn't appeal to you as content.

Trying to deny that it's content when clearly it is doesn't help your argument at all. And you're free to avoid the low level content if you don't enjoy it.

Pandaemonium, EX trials, Myths of the Realm, PvP, Eureka Orthos, Criterion Dungeon, Ultimate raids, etc. None of those are limiting you to 2 or 3 buttons.

You really need to lay off that copium you're sucking down. It could explain why the only thing you do in game is play with your houses instead of doing other content the game has.

Watching nikocado avocado mukbang is content too, but I'm not desperate enough to watch that yet.

You keep bringing up the same 'content' over and over, but half of that only appeals to a specific playerbase. The rest? 1 and done. And don't even get me started on the PvP. lol

So yeah, it's not appealing content. The combat is so braindead now that basically nothing they make is appealing anymore, remove the rewards and it's not even worth our time.

Also constantly telling players looking for midcore to "Go raid", when that's not something that was appealing to them in the first place - Doesn't get you anywhere. You're just a broken record.

Players saying they don't find the new content appealing, and they want more repeatable dynamic content they can solo or group up for isn't that much of an ask when most MMOs are offering that currently. So what you're gonna say next is "Play those games then", and what we're gonna say is "We are", then what you're gonna say is.. "Then why are you subbed" .. Then we're gonna respond with "Friends + House".

It's a never-ending cycle. You can't yell at people enough to make them want to do the shit they don't want to do. If they don't find it fun, then it's not fun. It ain't complicated.

I also keep seeing you tell players they aren't giving suggestions, and you know that's a straight up lie. We meme because we've given suggestions for so long. All you need to do is open that person's Post History dude, read a few posts, and you'll understand what they want. Half of their posts are suggestions, but you'll always focus on the maymays and bickering huh.

The real cope is when you can't admit that some people have legitimate complaints. If we had any sort of staying power, we wouldn't be dropping 80% of players 3 days after every patch cycle. You'd see a slow decline, but instead it's a steep cliff every time.

Your responses are just as scripted and boring as XIV's content.

[Kickwars]

Watching nikocado avocado mukbang is content too, but I'm not desperate enough to watch that yet.

You keep bringing up the same 'content' over and over, but half of that only appeals to a specific playerbase. The rest? 1 and done. And don't even get me started on the PvP. lol

So yeah, it's not appealing content. The combat is so braindead now that basically nothing they make is appealing anymore, remove the rewards and it's not even worth our time.

Also constantly telling players looking for midcore to "Go raid", when that's not something that was appealing to them in the first place - Doesn't get you anywhere. You're just a broken record.

Players saying they don't find the new content appealing, and they want more repeatable dynamic content they can solo or group up for isn't that much of an ask when most MMOs are offering that currently. So what you're gonna say next is "Play those games then", and what we're gonna say is "We are", then what you're gonna say is.. "Then why are you subbed" .. Then we're gonna respond with "Friends + House".

It's a never-ending cycle. You can't yell at people enough to make them want to do the shit they don't want to do. If they don't find it fun, then it's not fun. It ain't complicated.

I also keep seeing you tell players they aren't giving suggestions, and you know that's a straight up lie. We meme because we've given suggestions for so long. All you need to do is open that person's Post History dude, read a few posts, and you'll understand what they want. Half of their posts are suggestions, but you'll always focus on the maymays and bickering huh.

The real cope is when you can't admit that some people have legitimate complaints. If we had any sort of staying power, we wouldn't be dropping 80% of players 3 days after every patch cycle. You'd see a slow decline, but instead it's a steep cliff every time.

Your responses are just as scripted and boring as XIV's content.

Take a moment for self-reflection and ask yourself the following:
If you feel this game is a ripoff with poor content design, why are you still here playing and paying for it?
Then consider your answer.
Is your life better because you stayed?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[...]and no, sorry not sorry, roulettes are not content, it's the same boring thing in which you end up with 2 or 3 spells because its a low level dungeon or raid, because oh my god the entertainment of using 2 spells in a dungeon or raid, how fun

Doing daily roulette without premade feels like playing the game partly in Free Trial limitation lol.

[Iscah]

Doing daily roulette without premade feels like playing the game partly in Free Trial limitation lol.

Depends entirely on the player. I prefer just signing up to the roulette without having to arrange a group first. It's just what the game is, to me.