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  1. #101
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    The only thing that always annoyed me with that "play other game mentality" is that if do that, I'm gonna loose my midsized house, with no hope to ever get another one. If they wanted to make that "play other game" thing believable, they should at least align the time you can keep your house without entering it with the duration of a patch. I hate that "you know what, we don't put any long running content in the game this expansion, but if you actually leave for a few month as we advise, we'll take from you things you'll probably never get again." If you force me to stay subbed to keep house, you should also make incentives for me to keep playing during that time...
    That's the catch, and it works very well, and the funniest thing is that people will blame the players instead of blaming the dev team

    "just get rid of your house and take a break until next patch", and they'll proudly show that quote from Yoshi P saying that you are supposed to take breaks from the game in between patches (but yet you have to stay subscribed for your house, so breaks are okay as long as you keep paying eh)

    aka

    "let me get rid of the house i worked possibly years for so i can take a break, so then when i come back i can take a few years again to get the house again"
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  2. #102
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaStormblade View Post
    I wonder why nobody ascribes any merit to the viewpoints of perpetual official forum dwellers.
    Have you seen the commentary from some of the perpetual forum dwellers? It's an echo chamber of negativity that bashes every single thing about the game. Why would anyone bother listening to people whose opinion will be negative no matter what and who apparently find nothing enjoyable whatsoever, yet still continue to actively play the game anyway?

    From a player who has been on FFXIV since 2014 I can literally say how the content in the game has been falling.
    From a player who has been on FFXIV since 2015 I can say you need to look up what the word "literally" means, since it's not anything like how you're using it. For me, the content in the game remains very enjoyable and I'm having a great time. These are our opinions, nothing more.
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  3. #103
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Have you seen the commentary from some of the perpetual forum dwellers? It's an echo chamber of negativity that bashes every single thing about the game. Why would anyone bother listening to people whose opinion will be negative no matter what and who apparently find nothing enjoyable whatsoever, yet still continue to actively play the game anyway?



    From a player who has been on FFXIV since 2015 I can say you need to look up what the word "literally" means, since it's not anything like how you're using it. For me, the content in the game remains very enjoyable and I'm having a great time. These are our opinions, nothing more.
    Echo chamber? Bro we have like 7 threads that are constant back and forth trash flinging. How is that an echo chamber???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  4. #104
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    There's a big difference between criticising the game and insulting or threatening actual posters. The forums are far from an echo chamber and nobody bashes every aspect of the game. It just so happens that a lot of what some of us enjoy is being removed for the benefit of the same people insisting that the game is fine and that they're happy for a relic weapon to revolve around collecting tomestones yet again. So those of us who would prefer not to have every aspect of the game we enjoy be stripped away speak up and use the forum for its intended purpose - leaving feedback.
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  5. #105
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Bored? That's fine! It's what Yoshi intended, and he knows best!

    Unsubscribe, let your house lapse, let your FC lapse.

    Let the bots take over, let the fake FCs take all of the wards.

    Only sub during MSQ, then promptly unsub to..

    Play other games.
    Well Im still subbed, is a house owner, and is currently playing WoW Dragonflight in the downtime and having fun with it.

    But Im still also playing FFXIV as despite my issues and gripes, I still enjoy playing the game as well.

    So porque no los dos?
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  6. #106
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    Kickwars's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Have you seen the commentary from some of the perpetual forum dwellers? It's an echo chamber of negativity that bashes every single thing about the game. Why would anyone bother listening to people whose opinion will be negative no matter what and who apparently find nothing enjoyable whatsoever, yet still continue to actively play the game anyway?



    From a player who has been on FFXIV since 2015 I can say you need to look up what the word "literally" means, since it's not anything like how you're using it. For me, the content in the game remains very enjoyable and I'm having a great time. These are our opinions, nothing more.
    Thank you for making the forums a better place by sharing your opinion amidst the echo chamber, taking precious time out of your FULL TIME JOB to write them.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    It's funny that some people believe "join date" on the forums is an indicator of exactly how long someone has been playing. In this case, your assessment is wrong.

    Go apologize to the "manchild". Or are you too proud to admit your "judgement" was mistaken?
    "I" concur. "You" have "made" an incredibly "important" rebuke to "this" nonsensical "sling" "of" insults.
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  8. #108
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    That's the catch, and it works very well, and the funniest thing is that people will blame the players instead of blaming the dev team

    "just get rid of your house and take a break until next patch", and they'll proudly show that quote from Yoshi P saying that you are supposed to take breaks from the game in between patches (but yet you have to stay subscribed for your house, so breaks are okay as long as you keep paying eh)

    aka

    "let me get rid of the house i worked possibly years for so i can take a break, so then when i come back i can take a few years again to get the house again"
    All while conveniently ignoring that if you like say, raiding but only want to jump in later on in a tier's lifespan that you're now far behind in a capped currency that will have you waiting weeks to even "catch up". Or they'll ignore that the drip feed nature of content releases means if you aren't on the bandwagon quickly, you'll struggle to find people still doing said content. Funny enough those same people will then complain themselves how everyone "rushes!!" content and now they also can't find queues/people. The irony, of course, being lost on them that people took the very advice constantly echoed: they played the content they enjoyed then wait ahead with other content or started playing different games.

    Funny that.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    All while conveniently ignoring that if you like say, raiding but only want to jump in later on in a tier's lifespan that you're now far behind in a capped currency that will have you waiting weeks to even "catch up". Or they'll ignore that the drip feed nature of content releases means if you aren't on the bandwagon quickly, you'll struggle to find people still doing said content. Funny enough those same people will then complain themselves how everyone "rushes!!" content and now they also can't find queues/people. The irony, of course, being lost on them that people took the very advice constantly echoed: they played the content they enjoyed then wait ahead with other content or started playing different games.

    Funny that.
    I've never understood the whole "FF14 respects your time" statement at all for exactly the reasons you stated. It makes no sense to me. Freaking WoW, in my view, respects your time more, albeit marginally.
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  10. #110
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I've never understood the whole "FF14 respects your time" statement at all for exactly the reasons you stated. It makes no sense to me. Freaking WoW, in my view, respects your time more, albeit marginally.
    The statement is there because you do not fall behind horribly if you take a break and come back. You're not far behind everyone else and locked out of doing harder content, there's no horrible grind requiring your constant time and effort to stay on par with everybody else.
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