I want to play *This* game

[aveyond-dreams]

As the topic title states, I quite literally want to play this game. As in FFXIV. I would very much like to have good content that releases in a timely manner like we did back in Stormblood.

I do not care for excuses or for bad faith posters to tell me to go play other games as they try to draw attention away from the fact that clearly not all is well with this one. FFXIV was my main game for years prior to Endwalker, but now it seems intent on betraying those of us who invested so much time in it with how lacklustre both gameplay and battle content has become this expansion.

It was a mistake pandering to the people who unironically enjoy gameplay as riveting as clicking on nodes in Island Sanctuary or whose vanity is so great that they spend hours designing portraits or gposes that players like me who actually want to play a video game will never click on them to see.

We've spent the last 2 years offering feedback as to how to improve things, and it's well past time it's actually acted upon. FFXIV can be better than this. I want 10 more years of FFXIV the game not FFXIV the chat lobby.

[Dorito_Burrito]

...whose vanity is so great that they spend hours designing portraits or gposes that players like me who actually want to play a video game will never click on them to see.

We've spent the last 2 years offering feedback as to how to improve things, and it's well past time it's actually acted upon. FFXIV can be better than this. I want 10 more years of FFXIV the game not FFXIV the chat lobby.

You say this but then post on a character that looks like it was clearly made for these purposes.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I can never truly understand people attaching themselves to one game. You'd be a lot happier with playing other games and that is a cold objective fact.

Either that or just do what I do, if you like this game's world and happen to like creating characters and coming up with their own stories, actually play alts. This has been my easy go to solution to keeping me into playing this game once my main has done everything they can do, as I can go back and re-experience the older expansions with a new perspective or approach things more efficiently. If you enjoy playing the game, then you'd also enjoy replaying it again, or at least this was a thing I used to do constantly when I was a kid.

[Jeeqbit]

It was a mistake pandering to the people who unironically enjoy gameplay as riveting as clicking on nodes in Island Sanctuary or whose vanity is so great that they spend hours designing portraits or gposes that players like me who actually want to play a video game will never click on them to see.

I accept their logic of wanting to create content for those people, but now that content has been made I hope they return to, well, making social battle content like Eureka and Bozja, rather than permanently making second life and gposer content.

They managed to create content for those types of people in the past without reinvesting Eureka and Bozja resources into it. Bard music, for example, was just this little side project in the background that didn't seem to take away from other content, yet it has transformed the social environment of the game in a big way by becoming featured at almost every city state aetheryte in the game and attracting regular questions from newer players about how to unlock it.

Glamour plates and adventurer plates are other examples of simple content for these types of players that doesn't take away such a huge amount of resources.

We could even argue that they managed Ocean Fishing (and still are) alongside developing Bozja. So content like this doesn't need to mean not getting any social battle content.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Also quit lying about the longevity of previous's expansion's content. Upon release for Eureka and Bozja, people were able to quickly get their characters leveled into those zones and finish their relic steps within that patch in a few weeks. Barely enough time to last the months for the next patch.

[AwesomeJr44]

I want to play *This* game

I'm not sure why this is a hard concept for some to grasp.

If you enjoy playing the game, then you'd also enjoy replaying it again, or at least this was a thing I used to do constantly when I was a kid.

I'd be far more willing to play through the MSQ repeatedly if the early game wasn't such a slog. Even with the ARR cuts, it's just painful to get through the early game, and I don't feel like dropping a boatload of cash on skips to get to the better expansions should be the answer. You CAN do NG+ on a pre-existing character, but unless you have a job to level alongside it, none of the open world content is fulfilling as you'll just one shot everything.

[Jeeqbit]

Also quit lying about the longevity of previous's expansion's content. Upon release for Eureka and Bozja, people were able to quickly get their characters leveled into those zones and finish their relic steps within that patch in a few weeks. Barely enough time to last the months for the next patch.

That is true (if you were only doing one relic, at least). But it's also about the type of content it is. In Island Sanctuary, you're all alone and I doubt the majority of people have their friends visiting them there, whereas in Eureka and Bozja there is a shout chat that has frequently been used where parties have been formed to farm certain things, large-scale communication and coordination has occurred in their various raids, fun discussions have happened involving jokes, science or politics while waiting for raids, skirmishes, CEs or NMs. None of this happens in Island Sanctuary, so it's just not the same.

[Ransu]

As the topic title states, I quite literally want to play this game. As in FFXIV. I would very much like to have good content that releases in a timely manner like we did back in Stormblood.

I do not care for excuses or for bad faith posters to tell me to go play other games as they try to draw attention away from the fact that clearly not all is well with this one. FFXIV was my main game for years prior to Endwalker, but now it seems intent on betraying those of us who invested so much time in it with how lacklustre both gameplay and battle content has become this expansion.

It was a mistake pandering to the people who unironically enjoy gameplay as riveting as clicking on nodes in Island Sanctuary or whose vanity is so great that they spend hours designing portraits or gposes that players like me who actually want to play a video game will never click on them to see.

We've spent the last 2 years offering feedback as to how to improve things, and it's well past time it's actually acted upon. FFXIV can be better than this. I want 10 more years of FFXIV the game not FFXIV the chat lobby.

The amount of complaining you do and the amount of "my word is gold and anyone who likes endwalker is wrong" along with weird obsessions with hating on literally everything about this game.... Sorry if I straight up don't believe you and its baffling to me that you even play this game considering you have never once given any kind of vibe that you even like it.

Criticism is one thing, but your entire time on these forums have been nothing but pure complaining down to the most idiotic things like hamburgers daring to exist in the game.

[VelKallor]

This in specific

We've spent the last 2 years offering feedback as to how to improve things, and it's well past time it's actually acted upon

strikes me as hilarious, as I misdoubt any dev would look at his screeds for more than ten seconds, without rolling their eyes.

"my word is gold and anyone who likes endwalker is wrong"

..as well as this little tidbit, coming back to what i said earlier, nowhere, and I mean nowhere, has he ever admitted that he might be wrong about all of it. Honesty in admitting that ones opinion may be in error would seem to be a fundamental approach, would it not?

To quote one of my tutors "The beginning of wisdom are the words I dont know" Everything in EW has been implemented after long planning, with entire teams working on different facets and specific tasks, it has never been, and will never be, in any MMO developement, down to one persons opinion.

Yes a director will make a final decision, agreed, but not until after the full picture has been assessed separately.

One look at the credits for any expansion will make that perfectly plain.

[Jojoya]

I'm not sure why this is a hard concept for some to grasp.

There is nothing stopping Aveyond from playing this game if that is what they actually want to do.

Aveyond doesn't want to play this game. Aveyond wants to play what they remember the game as being in the past. That game is not this game. Games, especially long running MMORPGs, do change over time. So do their players.

Leaving feedback about the specific changes the game has undergone that make it subjectively less enjoyable can be helpful.

Rewriting what the game should be and expecting everyone else to agree is not.

Ridiculing both developers and players who have different interests is a good way to make certain your feedback is dismissed with prejudice. Aveyond has tended to be their own worst enemy with the way they write their posts and this one certainly is not helping them.