Zepla about FFXIV Relic and Square Enix not taking any Risks

[Xeronia]

If you want to dismiss what I said by calling it "gaslighting" so you don't have to think further, by all means. I am a casual player and I can still find hours a day of things to do if I want to, and for the past few months have. (I still have many classes to level, so just doing all the roulettes alone is already a HUGE chunk of time for someone who isn't 90 everything).



I don't play the game? I have 1000 hours logged in XIV. A lot of which was since Endwalker.

Before I typically just finished the story, levelled WHM and SMN to max and moved on until the next expansion. I'm playing more than ever. Again, way to just talk out of your butt lol.

Apologies but you are admitting to not having done content before and now doing it? You realize some of us are angry because we did that content when it first came out and thus don't have this cushion to fall back on like you seem to have.

[Boblawblah]

Apologies but you are admitting to not having done content before and now doing it? You realize some of us are angry because we did that content when it first came out and thus don't have this cushion to fall back on like you seem to have.

Can I ask what keeps you subbed? Not trying to get a 'gotcha' moment, I'm just curious what keeps people subbed that seem very unhappy about the game. Housing, friends, sunk cost fallacy, etc. It's interesting to see why people keep paying.

[jameseoakes]

Can I ask what keeps you subbed? Not trying to get a 'gotcha' moment, I'm just curious what keeps people subbed that seem very unhappy about the game. Housing, friends, sunk cost fallacy, etc. It's interesting to see why people keep paying.

For me it's a mix of wanting to play with the friends I have made in game as I have some who are important to me and I want something to do with them and in the past this game had content that would do that.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Apologies but you are admitting to not having done content before and now doing it? You realize some of us are angry because we did that content when it first came out and thus don't have this cushion to fall back on like you seem to have.

EDIT: Looks like I miscommunicated when I typed I only did the story. I also finished all trial and raid content (including EX in ARR but I as my career got busier I dropped those as I don't have time to dedicate to a static) available at each expansion then took a break when I finished it. Even when I took long breaks, it only takes a week or so to finish the story and outdated raids from old post-expansion patches, so that's hardly why I'm still subbed.

But I can see if someone has never taken a break or very few breaks in 10 years and has everything maxed out, they may be bored if they aren't interested in this game's side content. That said that's still an amazing run for any one game.

[Xeronia]

No, that's not what I said. I finished all content available at each expansion then took a break when I finished it. Even when I took long breaks, it only takes a week or so to finish the story and each outdated raid from old expansions, so that's hardly why I'm still subbed.

But I can see if someone has never taken a break or very few breaks in 10 years and has everything maxed out, they may be bored if they aren't interested in this game's side content. That said that's still an amazing run for any one game.

My apologies then. I would question why the game never had this issue in that run then though. I had taken small breaks here and there before but now I am finding myself just logging in to keep my house/FC house and to play with a dear friend of mine who can't play much other stuff as Playstation locked at the moment due to no computer. I hope that also answers Boblawbla's question.

Also I didn't find leveling any of this time consuming, I just leveled via Wondrous Tails/ Tribal quests on a lot of my jobs and PvP for series rank.

[ZephyrMenodora]

My apologies then. I would question why the game never had this issue in that run then though. I had taken small breaks here and there before but now I am finding myself just logging in to keep my house and to play with a dear friend of mine who can't play much other stuff as Playstation locked at the moment due to no computer. I hope that also answers Boblawbla's question.

Also I didn't find leveling any of this time consuming, I just leveled via Wondrous Tails/ Tribal quests on a lot of my jobs and PvP for series rank.

I'm not sure - I don't know your play style but maybe you enjoyed some of the relic grinds and related content? I am sorry the game is losing it's luster for you and I do hope it releases content you enjoy. It seems like overall you do care for the game and are just looking for it to keep your interest and enjoyment.

And even though I am generally happy with XIV, I feel the same way even towards posters I haven't gotten along with. I do like seeing people happy and enjoying themselves in the gaming communities I am in, and do support suggestions to increase that enjoyment even if it seems I don't.

[Xeronia]

I'm not sure - I don't know your play style but maybe you enjoyed some of the relic grinds and related content? I am sorry the game is losing it's luster for you and I do hope it releases content you enjoy. It seems like overall you do care for the game and are just looking for it to keep your interest and enjoyment.

Relic is certainly part of it I admit but Endwalker in general just lost my interest largely. I found faults in EW's story and patch story and then looked at what was left for me and have found it also lacking. I did play alts in the past but almost everyone I would have leveled with quit over dissatisfaction with jobs or the lack of content.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Relic is certainly part of it I admit but Endwalker in general just lost my interest largely. I found faults in EW's story and patch story and then looked at what was left for me and have found it also lacking. I did play alts in the past but almost everyone I would have leveled with quit over dissatisfaction with jobs or the lack of content.

I am sorry to hear, but thank you for sharing your thoughts with such calmness even while you are disappointed in things presently. It is possible they overextended themselves with XVI as others on the forums suggested, and hope things pick up for 7.0.

[RyuDragnier]

Relic is certainly part of it I admit but Endwalker in general just lost my interest largely. I found faults in EW's story and patch story and then looked at what was left for me and have found it also lacking. I did play alts in the past but almost everyone I would have leveled with quit over dissatisfaction with jobs or the lack of content.

I feel like part of the issue with the patch story is that...well, we were told it wouldn't link to where we're going. Meaning it's essentially filler arc, and just the trial series story. If this game was an anime, the first series would have ended with 6.0, this story would be a small OVA series with Pandaemonium being a full blown movie.

[Deo14]

I feel like part of the issue with the patch story is that...well, we were told it wouldn't link to where we're going. Meaning it's essentially filler arc, and just the trial series story. If this game was an anime, the first series would have ended with 6.0, this story would be a small OVA series with Pandaemonium being a full blown movie.

6.0 story had too much on the plate, yet they put bland filler in 6.X patches. This is obviously in hindsight, but damn, there is so many ways EW story could be resolved better. 6.0 could be actual Hydaelyn vs Zodiark story, where Zodiark wasn't lame ass puppet, and Hydaelyn wasn't just a Shell V-Power 97. Then 6.X could be dealing with Final Days, Meteion and Zenos. But instead, we got this weird dynamic with 3.5 antagonists, where Meteion felt as if she turned to the darkside 5 minutes after we met her, and Zenos was being artificially pushed back all the way until the end.