Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
opinions stated.
Why are you weird and not noticing the title of the thread? The discussion was started in an attempt to compare the two game so it's natural to talk about both.

What do you consider casual? What do you consider end game?

WoW's crafting was never time-consuming when I played (BC through Legion) outside of farming the Vanilla end game recipes and a few rare drop recipes from BC, Wrath, Cata, onward - There may have been reputation grinds gating access to some recipes (most of which no one cared about because gear from raiding was far superior again with the exception of ARR/BC) but I wouldn't have called them time consuming when it was 5 minutes to get the dailies done then you had the rest of the day to do other things. The actual crafting part of crafting was most definitely not time consuming. "Press the Create Button. Done."

Not certain why you bring up PvE as if it's something meaningless. No one is playing FFXIV because it has fantastic PvP. and Player versus Environment isn't limited to combat content.