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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    Lol? No it isn't?
    The amount of combat, talking and running involved it's pretty on par with other games. Hell, in most of them you can skip fighting to a degree (and at all in some cases!) if you're playing a stealth class. But no, it's only ff14 that is bad, yeah.
    How many mental backflips that take you?



    It really isn't on par with other games. You need to go play those other games and stop lying. MSQ is known for how very little combat there is, and how much text reading, cutscenes, and back and forth there is. It's common in each expansion where you'll at times go hours without a single encounter or duty, even speeding through MSQ.

    Like sure, over the course of all expansions - There's some good Trials and end-game.. But no, the MSQ and casual gameplay isn't really combat focused unless you're grinding on purpose.

    There's really no argument - If you want to sit in denial to impress the sprouts, that's on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
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    My lad, I'm literally replaying LoTRO right now. Half of Epic is running, talking and reading. One particular expac is almost all about "go there, talk to an NPC, move to the next location; you can do side quests there if you want, but you don't have to".
    Half of SWTOR story is flying around and talking, tho all cutscenes there's voiced, I give it that.
    Half of ESO story is running and talking.
    I dunno what other or new MMOs cool kids playing these days and don't really care, but in my expirience? It's always has been like that with main stories, no need to pretend like ff14 is somehow worse in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    My lad, I'm literally replaying LoTRO right now. Half of Epic is running, talking and reading. One particular expac is almost all about "go there, talk to an NPC, move to the next location; you can do side quests there if you want, but you don't have to".
    Half of SWTOR story is flying around and talking, tho all cutscenes there's voiced, I give it that.
    Half of ESO story is running and talking.
    I dunno what other or new MMOs cool kids playing these days and don't really care, but in my expirience? It's always has been like that with main stories, no need to pretend like ff14 is somehow worse in that regard.

    I've also played those and most popular MMOs. I'm sure others here have as well.

    It's not the same experience, as much as you want to sit here and believe that. Most of those games even let you coop the story.

    It's like your brain forgot 90% of XIV MSQ somehow. You also forget the fact that XIV basically forces you to run through the whole MSQ before you're allowed to even do any side-content for that expac. Island Sanctuary? Variant? POTD 3? Give me a break. lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPWueMnAqkM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXxnh8HRsvE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHjzpiiNrCs

    Also idk wtf you're smoking. "Kids these days" - Brother, older MMOs didn't even have MSQ. You ran outside and got dumpstered in the first 5 minutes of the game.

    Mf Gary Gygax spoke sweet nothings in my ear while I was getting my ass beat in DDO. THAT MSQ? lol
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    Last edited by R041; 05-03-2023 at 03:21 AM.