This game is on a terrible state right now.

[Kazhar]

Some people on here sure make it feel like they should. Or care that it's a spectrum. "You should cater to this type of player" Devs go and do so "Oh no, we didn't mean those ones. we meant those other ones " Cue multiple walk backs until everyone and their pet badger know what's being hinted at. While wishing they'd just say what they want and why out loud already. When the devs finally do put something that caters to them; they just go and cry "Oh not like that."

Not anyone's fault but Square Enix that they always have the absolute worst solution to any problem.

"Oh you thought Bozja needed some improvement? Let's remove the entire content instead of iterating on the concept"

"Oh you think the latest raid tier was hostile to melee players? Let's dumb it down tier after tier so the job becomes impossible to distinguish from phys ranged"

It's 100% a failure of the dev team, not the playerbase. Those complaints were legitimate but they always chose the laziest possible way to answer them so that they never have to deal with those issues ever again.

[Alleluia]

"Oh you thought Bozja needed some improvement? Let's remove the entire content instead of iterating on the concept"

They did not remove the entire concept of relic weapons. They've tried out different ideas for it every expansion. None of the relic grinds have been identical.

They likely felt that putting it behind Hildebrand was enough of a barrier this time around. And judging by the whining about it on the forums at the time, they might have had a point.

This relic grind is an attempt as a casual's grind. It involves doing a long side quest chain and then earning tomes from duties. I'm sure the next one will be an off-the-wall pvp idea or something, in Corvus probably.

[SturmChurro]

This relic grind is an attempt as a casual's grind. It involves doing a long side quest chain and then earning tomes from duties. I'm sure the next one will be an off-the-wall pvp idea or something, in Corvus probably.

What grind? LOL I'm sorry, but.. I don't think you can even refer to this as an "attempt", let alone "casual grind".

[Absimiliard]

This relic grind is an attempt as a casual's grind. It involves doing a long side quest chain and then earning tomes from duties. I'm sure the next one will be an off-the-wall pvp idea or something, in Corvus probably.

A long side-quest chain? It's only long if you're a new player coming in and have never touched the Hildebrand quests, in which case you're stuck doing two or three, maybe four if you're slow, hours of quests. If you've been around for any length of time, then it is instead a case of do like four quests and dip into your surplus of tomestones to near-instantly acquire a weapon.

[MonteCristo]

Not anyone's fault but Square Enix that they always have the absolute worst solution to any problem.

"Oh you thought Bozja needed some improvement? Let's remove the entire content instead of iterating on the concept"

"Oh you think the latest raid tier was hostile to melee players? Let's dumb it down tier after tier so the job becomes impossible to distinguish from phys ranged"

It's 100% a failure of the dev team, not the playerbase. Those complaints were legitimate but they always chose the laziest possible way to answer them so that they never have to deal with those issues ever again.

Completely agree...there are more ways than one to solve a problem they just tend to go to an extreme when they "fix" things.