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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    Like...could they make Sentinel, Nebula, and Shadow Wall have unique traits like how Vengeance has counterattack damage? sure...but it's basically a non-issue since you never should be using Vengeance for the damage anyway.
    You actually do use it for damage whenever the fight allows you to, even if the change to Inner Release made it less effective. And why wouldn't anyone use Vengeance also for damage?

    Popping it on Toxic Crunch instead of Venomous Mass for example is just free extra damage.


    Or the other case where you just pop it during a buff window if you know you won't need it for another 2 minutes...although that scenario has been rare this expansion.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 05-01-2023 at 10:07 PM.

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    Grimahed Darkovin
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    You actually do use it for damage whenever the fight allows you to, even if the change to Inner Release made it less effective. And why wouldn't anyone use Vengeance also for damage?

    Popping it on Toxic Crunch instead of Venomous Mass for example is just free extra damage.
    That's sick actually. It should be obvious, but I didn't know it was an active thing people did, guess I just never noticed.
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    That's sick actually. It should be obvious, but I didn't know it was an active thing people did, guess I just never noticed.
    Well this tier has been pretty heavy on magic damage, which ignores the damage reflect.
    Infact I'm pretty sure only p5s has a physical TB and physical autos. Everything else has been Magic
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I have played all the tanks at high level content and I can say this. Each "feel" the same...but they couldn't be more different in terms of the fight mechanics they have to work around.

    P8S on Warrior feels completely different when played on PLD.
    Holmgang while not really needed...actually comes in handy on the 2nd phase as I can use it multiple times. Where as on PLD Hallowed Ground has maybe 1 use during the most opportune time.

    Same goes for burst windows and flexibility of each tank. PLD has the ability to range with it's burst and Holy Spirit. Warrior has to be close and max melee for those moments. Granted the hitboxes are much larger now then ever...but it's always nice to know that if I need to spread away during four fold I can put myself in the corner and still use Holy Spirit vs. Tomahawk...both of which DO NOT compare in damage.

    It's moments like that I love figuring out the minutia of each fight and how each tank can min-max themselves. So yes each tank has the same toolset...but it's used in different ways.
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