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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NekiUno View Post
    Constructive feedback is fine, in fact it is very necessarily in anything we do from going for new job or improving this game, both in the sense of your own gameplay to all of the things they added thought out the years...as long you actually did the content for it
    I know you did not mention me but I would just like to say that this line of questioning has been directed at so many people, many of whom have actually engaged with a lot of content. Like ForteNightshade.

    There is a huge middle ground between being a Limsa AFKer who didn't even do the MSQ and being rank 1 on lalachievements. It's fair to want people to do the content to actually critique that particular piece of content, but I also don't think it's fair for many people (not you) to suggest that if you haven't done XYZ(*) you shouldn't talk about the game as a whole. That's an obvious cop-out that everyone can see. It's a shady way to dismiss the other person's opinion.

    (*)XYZ = Farm 50,000 leves, clear PotD, HoH, Orthos solo, clear all Ultimates, level all jobs to 90

    If XYZ is something like:

    have four or five Lv90 jobs, preferably in each role, before you talk about job balance;
    have an Ultimate or at least a Savage clear, before you talk about high-end encounter design or the raiding scene;
    be a Hunter Wolf or at least Diamond, before you talk about the prevalence of wintrading on the Feast leaderboards;
    have all crafters at Lv90, before you talk about the economy of endgame gear;
    etc.

    I think people will be far more amenable to the criticisms. But right now so many posts are just dumping a laundry list of possible grinds one could engage in to dismiss criticisms of the lack of the game's content as a whole. I think if you've tried maybe half the new content every patch you more than deserved the right to criticize the game as a whole.

    That isn't to say everyone's opinions have equal value. The amount of posts on the prevalence of wintrading, hacking etc. on the Feast leaderboards when we literally never saw these posters in Plat/Diamond back in ShB gave me an aneurysm.
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    Last edited by Incinerator2; 04-27-2023 at 07:04 AM.

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