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  1. #521
    Player R041's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CStrife912 View Post
    Doing my custom deliveries today I will say there is definitely room to lower the amount of inputs, like allow me to hand in however many up to the 6 and not me having to spam each one. It is things like that, that they indeed can fix or make much easier and have proven so in other aspects of the game. I definitely feel there are many areas they can trim down button input bloat or delay. In regards to wow flying...I just don't like it, both games suffer from old zones being pointless but at least with 14 I can teleport about where as in WoW I have to flight path to an area...or boat to another or mages guild to another...counter point it does give coherence to the world but I think I'll forgive the coherence for ease of getting about.
    Yeah, I think after awhile I did start to feel like I wished there was an easier teleport in general. So maybe for WoW it's more an issue that it can sometimes feel frustrating to figure out how to travel to a certain area.

    So if WoW had an easier way to teleport to each expac it'd be nicer. I know you all like your jank ass portal tower, but it's jank. It old. Delete that shit. Also delete your 20yo ass towns too. They gross. lol

    Then if XIV maybe removed some of the excessive Aetherytes and centered them in the zone instead of always in a far corner. But also XIV just barely has any reason to even be in 90% of the zones..

    Like this is just absolutely excessive.

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    Last edited by R041; 03-16-2023 at 03:14 AM.

  2. #522
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    Sheriyana's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Okay, I came on a bit stronk. And for that I'm sorry.

    But I can almost guarantee that's what they meant. I still stand by what I said with how it's all forced animations and button delays for the sake of slowing the player down at every turn.

    It just.. Doesn't feel as fluid as most games these days, and even MMOs. Playing WoW as an example (Yeah..) is so refreshing because it never stops you. Or if it DOES, it does it in a way it doesn't feel like it's taking your time.

    A good example is how XIV has teleportation, but WoW mostly has flying. I never felt like WoW was intentionally slowing me down, or that it felt aged. I just felt like it was a world to explore. Even though getting to A-B is way faster in XIV in general.

    I wish XIV would get rid of all of these anim delays and mass prompts for everything. If they want to slow us down, then do it while we're teleporting, make it a travel where we float there. But don't make me wait at the portal with my hand on it for 5 seconds. That just isn't engaging as a player. It feels weird and slow.
    This is exactly what I meant. I thought I made my point pretty clear. I don't expect this 10 year old game to produce the same quality as a game released a year or two ago but there's so much clunky jank here that could use a lot more fluidity and way less pointless confirmation windows and interaction animations. MMOs thrive on immersion, you want people to feel like they want to live in that world, as for an MMO, you're supposed to spend a sizable amount of your freetime in it.
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  3. #523
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    This is exactly what I meant. I thought I made my point pretty clear. I don't expect this 10 year old game to produce the same quality as a game released a year or two ago but there's so much clunky jank here that could use a lot more fluidity and way less pointless confirmation windows and interaction animations. MMOs thrive on immersion, you want people to feel like they want to live in that world, as for an MMO, you're supposed to spend a sizable amount of your freetime in it.
    It's really why the mod community has taken off this past year. They have the ability to scrub some of that abrasiveness away, and they did. Yoshi needs to be paying more attention to what we hate, and what takes us out of the general mood with basic gameplay.
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  4. #524
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    It's really why the mod community has taken off this past year. They have the ability to scrub some of that abrasiveness away, and they did. Yoshi needs to be paying more attention to what we hate, and what takes us out of the general mood with basic gameplay.
    Yeah, I can only imagine! Wish we could have access to all that on console too. They very much do need to start focus on the fluidity of the gameplay, no one wants casting bars for interactable items or endless confirmation windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer25c View Post
    This a odd patch this made for catch up idk why u shocked if u play this game for years odd patches always being boring
    Odd patches used to have exploratory content lmao.
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  6. #526
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickwars View Post
    Odd patches used to have exploratory content lmao.
    I can't wait for this patch tbh, mostly because this has been a 5 month wait (the longest patch by far, btw) and we're going to get an influx of "this is all we get before 7.0?" lol. The increased time between patches has literally done nothing but make EW feel sparse in content.
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  7. #527
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    I can't wait for this patch tbh, mostly because this has been a 5 month wait (the longest patch by far, btw) and we're going to get an influx of "this is all we get before 7.0?" lol. The increased time between patches has literally done nothing but make EW feel sparse in content.
    The funniest thing will be the few whiteknights saying

    "yeah there is old content though ! there is endless content in ffxiv, you can also do achievements like desynth 10000 items and catch 5000 fishes ! just because you decide to not do it doesnt mean there's no content"
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  8. #528
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The funniest thing will be the few whiteknights saying

    "yeah there is old content though ! there is endless content in ffxiv, you can also do achievements like desynth 10000 items and catch 5000 fishes ! just because you decide to not do it doesnt mean there's no content"
    no it's going to be uh, "are you having fun though? clearly this is the worst game by far if you think this, just quit", smh cmon get it right. 7.0 comes and astro gets the cut to become like WHM, SGE, and SCH. MNK, BLM become like SMN; MCH is dead to them. and all is complete :P
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  9. #529
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The funniest thing will be the few whiteknights saying

    "yeah there is old content though ! there is endless content in ffxiv, you can also do achievements like desynth 10000 items and catch 5000 fishes ! just because you decide to not do it doesnt mean there's no content"
    Oh you don't want to do POTD? The thing we've been doing since.. (checks calendar) 2016?!

    I'm still exhausted from running it for a month straight on release. That was before job boosts. lol
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  10. #530
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The funniest thing will be the few whiteknights saying

    "yeah there is old content though ! there is endless content in ffxiv, you can also do achievements like desynth 10000 items and catch 5000 fishes ! just because you decide to not do it doesnt mean there's no content"
    Old content might as well not exist in a game with such a verticality and option to unsync. Old raids, EX, anything? Just unsync it, you get same rewards anyways. ARR/HW relics? Passively get poetics and then unsync few duties. Old crafting/firmament/whatever? Trained Eye -> Groundwork = EZ HQ. Seriously, why tf is Trained Eye even a thing, few days ago I tried to do those rabbit quests and Trained Eye works for all the items so far for some reason. Even content released this patch is somehow already outdated.

    Only good old content is Eureka and Bozja. Since EW gave us no exploratory zone, 7.X droughts will be even worse if they don't pick up the pace and start releasing actual MMORPG content, and not once-and-done content.
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