Stop waiting for cutscenes in alliance raids. We never did this in Stormblood.

[Kolaina]

You guys are being a bunch of Randalls, person didnt even do it yet (I assume)

Report “behaviour”. That’s the key word. Not going to log in right now and report that specific poster for something they said on a forum.

Will report anyone exhibiting the practice of not participating, regardless of reason, but especially for white knighting / virtue signalling

[TheMightyMollusk]

I just tell the group that I'm gonna grab a drink while people are watching the cutscene. Then I go get a drink. If you wanna report me for staying hydrated, go for it, but I've yet to visit the Gaol over it.

[Hazama999]

Man, this brings me back to the 2.0 Castrum/Praetorium days.

My response is pretty much the same as it was back then:

I value the experience of any one new person over that of the rest of the group, who have likely run X or Y raid a bunch of times, so I'd rather wait.

[Taliriah]

Man, this brings me back to the 2.0 Castrum/Praetorium days.

My response is pretty much the same as it was back then:

I value the experience of any one new person over that of the rest of the group, who have likely run X or Y raid a bunch of times, so I'd rather wait.

This + it tells you which people are noobs so it can help with things like choosing dance partners etc
Also you can start making bets in your head about which of the cutscene watchers are going to die on mechanics (especially the super trollish ones like mustardio's analysis) and then laugh when they do

[EgilTheStressedMage]

Man, this brings me back to the 2.0 Castrum/Praetorium days.

My response is pretty much the same as it was back then:

I value the experience of any one new person over that of the rest of the group, who have likely run X or Y raid a bunch of times, so I'd rather wait.

Noooooo you’re holding up the entire raid you can view the cutscenes in the inns i have to be somewhere!!

[VeyaAkemi]

I value the experience of any one new person over that of the rest of the group, who have likely run X or Y raid a bunch of times, so I'd rather wait.

This is the core of the issue to me right? we as society in general value things that can only be experienced once more than repeated experiences, and that's what makes cutscene watchers more valuable than everyone else.

Lemme paint a scenario, let's say you are somewhere you can't leave, like an office job, just doing routine things that don't exactly need full focus, and there are 5 people in there, there was this new super popular show that everyone has been watching, and 4 out of those 5 people have watched the show and are super excited about it, the 5th haven't because of time constraints and they still intend to watch it once they can, those 4 people want to discuss the show among themselves, but assuming they know of the 5th's situation, they will refrain from doing so, because they don't want to spoil the 5th's experience, you are unquestionably putting one person's enjoyment above the other four, but their first experience is considered intrinsically more valuable and thus it is respected.

This is the same for cutscenes, there are elements that get glossed over, a cutscene watcher may feel pressured in skipping the cutscene because the game notified them that the battle has started and that puts them in the mindset that they need to be there(personally, it took me a long time to train myself that if the battle starts, I should just sit that out until I am done), they may miss a few battle quotes that are part of the whole experience, they may want to take the entire fight in because that's part of the narrative, those are all elements that we respect because we respect first experiences more, and doing anything that may negatively impact that first experience is bad as a result, it's also the entire reason we have unskippable cutscenes in Praet, because the devs themselves are respecting the potential first experience more than everyone else's repeated experience.

[Xirean]

Lemme paint a scenario, let's say you are somewhere you can't leave, like an office job, just doing routine things that don't exactly need full focus, and there are 5 people in there, there was this new super popular show that everyone has been watching, and 4 out of those 5 people have watched the show and are super excited about it, the 5th haven't because of time constraints and they still intend to watch it once they can, those 4 people want to discuss the show among themselves, but assuming they know of the 5th's situation, they will refrain from doing so, because they don't want to spoil the 5th's experience, you are unquestionably putting one person's enjoyment above the other four, but their first experience is considered intrinsically more valuable and thus it is respected.

This is a very silly example. The four could simply ask that fifth person to put on headphones or they could discuss it in a different room or via some private text chat. This wouldn't effect the fifth person out at all and still allow them to have their discussion. Force starting the fight while someone is in a cutscene is different. As you said, it pressures them to skip the cutscene to actually enjoy the fight for their first time. These two scenarios are non comparable imo.

[Luluna]

I always wait for people to enjoy the CS. We all started somewhere and I hate this rush rush mentality. I just take a minute play with my cats or chat or whatever, it does not bother me to wait.
I wish people would not make people feel bad about CS watching. I remember years ago I would skip them to not hold up a group but that was a long time ago, I will watch them now. Let people enjoy the game life is short ^O^

[VerdeLuck]

You only get one chance to experience a story the first time. I'm still years later upset my first run through the Praetorium was full of people in silly outfits talking about wanting to perform sexual acts on Cid and rushing me through the content. Felt like it completely killed any amount of hype that section of the story had, so I can understand people wanting to watch cutscenes.

[Taliriah]

You only get one chance to experience a story the first time. I'm still years later upset my first run through the Praetorium was full of people in silly outfits talking about wanting to perform sexual acts on Cid and rushing me through the content. Felt like it completely killed any amount of hype that section of the story had, so I can understand people wanting to watch cutscenes.

I had a similar experience the first time but it's not what killed the hype there for me. It was the awful monologues