Lost my Large house in Empyreum. Super, SUPER bummed...

[Nyxs]

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

There's obviously nothing that can be done now, someone else has won the plot. But I would probably say, I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended. Maybe because I wasn't "interacting" with anything in my house, just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.

To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed. I'm honestly probably going to quit, and it's directly over losing the house. It's not a *lot* of money, but that's still one sub they're probably going to lose.

Either way, definitely still really down about it. I poured so much time and effort into getting the gil and buying all the items, and I just really *loved* my house. Especially the dedicated "Holiday" theme, I'd honestly thought about trying to decorate it for each of the major holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas), and it definitely brought some amount of joy, just logging in and admiring my place, or seeing the journal comments from others who liked the place, too.

You want to fully quit the game because you lost the house? Thats extreme. I think you should take a long break but not because of the house but because you clearly need to. I took a break before so I lost a good house but I didn’t get this upset. Should they have held my house for me? No. I wasn’t using it.

[Jojoya]

Wow... Game creates housing, doesn't need to create reasons for players to use them.... where do I send you a game design award?

FFXIV didn't create housing. It's been a concept in RPGs and MMORPGs for a long time. What FFXIV did is add it as game content.

What's been the point of player housing in RPGs? To give the player character a home they can customize and make use of through their imagination.

If that isn't reason enough, why buy a house in the first place? Why tell SE they need to create other reasons to own one? You could just skip it as content and focus on other things, much like I skip PvP.

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

There's obviously nothing that can be done now, someone else has won the plot. But I would probably say, I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended. Maybe because I wasn't "interacting" with anything in my house, just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.

To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed. I'm honestly probably going to quit, and it's directly over losing the house. It's not a *lot* of money, but that's still one sub they're probably going to lose.

Either way, definitely still really down about it. I poured so much time and effort into getting the gil and buying all the items, and I just really *loved* my house. Especially the dedicated "Holiday" theme, I'd honestly thought about trying to decorate it for each of the major holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas), and it definitely brought some amount of joy, just logging in and admiring my place, or seeing the journal comments from others who liked the place, too.

But what do you mean by "logging into your house"? Do you mean log into the game while at your house or do you mean entering your house?

Being outside of your house but within the plot borders doesn't reset the demolition timer. You have to enter it to reset the timer.

They don't let people keep their houses simply by being subbed because there are other players who are likewise subbed that would like a house but can't get one on their home world. They want the wards to appear active and populated (even though that's rarely going to happen in practice) so that means getting houses into the hands of players that will use them, not those who buy a house then ignore it.

If you're going to quit over losing the house, then you weren't enjoying the game any way. It sound like losing the house was in your personal best interest. There are other games with housing that you don't have to worry about losing. You might want to look into the Sims 4, which is focused around housing and socialization instead of a house being minor side content.

[Ath192]

FFXIV didn't create housing. It's been a concept in RPGs and MMORPGs for a long time. What FFXIV did is add it as game content.

What's been the point of player housing in RPGs? To give the player character a home they can customize and make use of through their imagination.

If that isn't reason enough, why buy a house in the first place? Why tell SE they need to create other reasons to own one? You could just skip it as content and focus on other things, much like I skip PvP.

No, I have a mansion and its ridiculous we have a piece of furniture a ton of players use, some daily, that can't be placed in a house. A house that has an entire industry of furniture revolving around it and yet it doesn't have the option to be equipped with what is arguably the most important furniture piece of all. And if this were available more people would step into their houses more often.

There's no need to defend SE at every turn. Yoshi P isn't going to call you and thank personally for defending them against feedback in the forums. I think hearing what players don't like or would like added is the reason they created the forums to begin with.

What good are you doing exactly to anyone by saying it's their fault and they need to find reasons because the game shouldn't make any? The take is beyond useless.

[VirusOnline]

What's been the point of player housing in RPGs? To give the player character a home they can customize and make use of through their imagination.

If that isn't reason enough, why buy a house in the first place? Why tell SE they need to create other reasons to own one? You could just skip it as content and focus on other things, much like I skip PvP.

PvP is a niche. It's neglected content. You cannot possibly relate this to housing.
Housing which is a highly desirable commodity and is very much NOT neglected. SE creates all the reason for players to want to have housing. You can tell that by just how many housing items are on the marketboard and all those furniture design competitions and all those people who design houses and show them off. Hell there's a whole sub community around housing design itself. This game, which centers itself around characterisation, has made a house a limited resource. Housing which is arguably a very large part of a player's characterisation experience. If this wasn't true we wouldn't be having this argument.

Imagine if SE put out the much desirable long hair with actual non-plank board physics. Anyone can buy one. Here's the kicker: it's limited in supply.
A lot of people would not appreciate the "just skip it" sentiment.

Tbh if you don't use your house for 45 days you don't need a house. Plain and simple.

you right
let's start demo on those apartments and those fc rooms, free up some resources

We're here blaming each other for experiencing the symptoms of a broken system. YoshiP is too goddamn stubborn to budge on the housing situation out of "community", though if I had my pick at his brain he probably sees that it's just not worth the effort. The game is neither young nor has great infrastructure.

[MonteCristo]

Why quit over a lost house? Theres so much other content to do

[Batbrat]

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have been 45 days.
I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days.
I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended.
Maybe because I was just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.
To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed.

1. You lost track of time. 45 days had passed, it just did not feel like 45 days to you.
2. It worked perfectly as intended. Your house was demolished because it was not used for over a month.
3. Yes, you have to go inside your house, otherwise you will lose it. This is well known. Standing outside does not count.
4. They don't do this because then all houses would be taken and no one would ever have any hope of getting a house outside of new wards.

Some of you get a house and then immediately forget what it's like to want a house lol.
People go from 'ugh all the houses are full, id do anything for a chance to get one' to 'why on earth should MY house be taken just because i dont use it??'
Which, again. Not entirely the same case with you. Again, I do understand that you were busy and moving irl and that you did love your house. So that makes this quite sad, really. but the facts are unfortunately, you did not enter your house within that 45 days. It's the one rule they give you. It's the one rule they give home owners that some just can't help but break anyway and then come here and tell us how outraged they are.

I get the feeling with demolition on and working now after what-almost 2 years of having it off or something??, that we're going to see a lot more of these posts pretty often now. People who were so used to never having to care suddenly being caught and insisting something else must have gone wrong. Nothing went wrong. You didnt go in, and you didn't check your /timers to make sure you were safe. I'm sorry to hear about it. Please remind your friends to check their /timers to avoid the same fate.

[Ranaku]

you right
let's start demo on those apartments and those fc rooms, free up some resources

We're here blaming each other for experiencing the symptoms of a broken system. YoshiP is too goddamn stubborn to budge on the housing situation out of "community", though if I had my pick at his brain he probably sees that it's just not worth the effort. The game is neither young nor has great infrastructure.

A house is not an apartment or fc room. I think that much you know hopefully.

I see tons of houses which lay barren after being bought for months. Some put just a chair in it. Some lose them cause they can't be bothered to look into the house or take care of it for like one day in one and a half months.

So it's only fair that the house gets torn down and the plot sold to another player, heck they even give you part of your money back for that and your furniture and send you a warning email. All stuff they don't have to do.

Maybe the next person will appreciate the plot and house more.

[Nyxs]

PvP is a niche. It's neglected content. You cannot possibly relate this to housing.
Housing which is a highly desirable commodity and is very much NOT neglected. SE creates all the reason for players to want to have housing. You can tell that by just how many housing items are on the marketboard and all those furniture design competitions and all those people who design houses and show them off. Hell there's a whole sub community around housing design itself. This game, which centers itself around characterisation, has made a house a limited resource. Housing which is arguably a very large part of a player's characterisation experience. If this wasn't true we wouldn't be having this argument.

Imagine if SE put out the much desirable long hair with actual non-plank board physics. Anyone can buy one. Here's the kicker: it's limited in supply.
A lot of people would not appreciate the "just skip it" sentiment.




you right
let's start demo on those apartments and those fc rooms, free up some resources

We're here blaming each other for experiencing the symptoms of a broken system. YoshiP is too goddamn stubborn to budge on the housing situation out of "community", though if I had my pick at his brain he probably sees that it's just not worth the effort. The game is neither young nor has great infrastructure.

I dont agree with fc rooms as there is no reason to as anyone in a fc can get one but apartments I think wouldn’t be a bad idea to start demolishing. There is probably people who quit 10 years ago with one.

[Celine_Aurora]

Are you speaking from experience? Sweetie, I bought my first house in 2015 and have never accidentally lost one to auto-demolition because I idle at my house and do my retainer business there every time I log in. You should do the same so you don't end up like OP did.

Can't wait for EU auto-demolition and the chance to finally claim a personal mansion that some inactive user forgot to enter.

Of course I'm speaking from experience. Of all the people I know, only one idles at their hosue regularly - but that's because they have a mansion and like hosting a lot of people from their circle of friends, organizing events for us, even. Everyone else furnishes their house and then chooses a different hangout spot where they have actually people who they can interact with in /say. Might be their FC house, might be a bench in a capital.

Retainer business can be done at your house, or anywhere else. The problem is that anywhere else also offers services you will have to eventually leave not your house, but the whole residential quarter for. And if your house is in shirogane and Empyreum, you can't even use the aethernet to quickly get into a capital for stuff like GC turn-ins. The game just does nothing to make owning a personal house compelling from a gameplay standpoint; it's just a vanity item.

Edited to add: I think EU auto-demo is on now? I forgot, they keep going back and forth about it.

[Toutatis]

No, I have a mansion and its ridiculous we have a piece of furniture a ton of players use, some daily, that can't be placed in a house. A house that has an entire industry of furniture revolving around it and yet it doesn't have the option to be equipped with what is arguably the most important furniture piece of all. And if this were available more people would step into their houses more often.

I find my Goblet house quite useful and made it my base where I go whenever I am not in a duty. It’s cheap travel from anywhere, I have all the vendors I need, an fc chest, retainer bell, aesthetician, armoire and it’s just by a MB too (practicality was my main criteria when I bid). I switched my GC allegiance to that location so it’s a just a few gil to travel to Ul’dah to turn in gear to the GC which is right by the Aetheryte and has a dresser too.

My neighbors also use their houses regularly as I see them around.