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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post

    The only case where i would agree would be if you had a car crash and ended up in the hospital for a month in which at least 3 weeks you werent able to talk. You could otherwise have arranged a backup laptop to be able to log in and enter the house (even if the game runs 5fps, thats not relevant at that pint). But its highly unlikely that this happens. You are rarely in a hospital for over a week.
    The things you read on these forums…that’s just insensitive and dumb. Health matters aside (several conditions can make you incapable of playing), not everyone can have a backup laptop and not every hospital provides a connection that allows to play games.

    Anyway, to make it simple, try not to be last minute: things can happen.

    45 days should be enough time to allow people to enter their houses. There’s always exceptions like that time I got stuck in a remote region with no internet access for an extra 3 weeks after a 4 weeks business trip as the plane couldn’t land (no roads) due to weather but that’s just bad luck.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 04-20-2023 at 09:14 PM.

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    I don't know how people keep getting their house demolition while you just enter inside your house. I have both houses with timer and after I got email of demolition notice, I logged on and it's gone after I entered it...





    Those mumbo jumbo like use your NPC or stuff like that are just fearmongering and I never believed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    Those mumbo jumbo like use your NPC or stuff like that are just fearmongering and I never believed it.
    Forward this email to 10 friends or you'll have bad luck for a year!

    Same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    I don't know how people keep getting their house demolition while you just enter inside your house. I have both houses with timer and after I got email of demolition notice, I logged on and it's gone after I entered it...





    Those mumbo jumbo like use your NPC or stuff like that are just fearmongering and I never believed it.
    There is a bug where sometimes autodemo doesn't reset just from entry. Its a bug, its not supposed to happen, but it does occasionally. Interacting with an NPC or the bell resets it if you get that bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Forward this email to 10 friends or you'll have bad luck for a year!

    Same thing.
    What if you don't have ten friends? I'm so screwed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    I don't know how people keep getting their house demolition while you just enter inside your house. I have both houses with timer and after I got email of demolition notice, I logged on and it's gone after I entered it...





    Those mumbo jumbo like use your NPC or stuff like that are just fearmongering and I never believed it.
    The so called "bug" has never been proven true and it's just people spreading this with the source "trust me bro", I have cancelled so many auto demo's and never had a single issue with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    Those mumbo jumbo like use your NPC or stuff like that are just fearmongering and I never believed it.
    It's not fearmongering because it does happen. I was a skeptic myself until I went through it with a friend. I watched him go inside his house and we both still have the demolition pending in our Estate timers. It disappeared only when he interacted with his repair NPC.

    I will say that it's very rare (since we don't see more reports of it happening) and that the vast majority of house owners will never experience it because they enter their house on a regular basis. Even if the bug does happen on one of their entries, they will have entered the house again long before it gets close to the 30 days when the pending demolition notice appears.

    The players who need to be careful are the one who only enter their house once or twice every 45 days. In the case of my friend, he was just returning to the game after some moderate water damage to his house during a storm resulted in the loss of a lot of his electronic equipment including his PS4. He had to wait for the funds to replace it before he could log back into the game.

    Is there genuinely any harm in telling players to take a small step to be extra cautious? It's crazy how much pushback some of you generate over this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    There is a bug where sometimes autodemo doesn't reset just from entry. Its a bug, its not supposed to happen, but it does occasionally. Interacting with an NPC or the bell resets it if you get that bug.
    Such a bug was never confirmed.

    As far as we know is just fearmongering and people who lost their houses trying to cope with the fact they f* up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratini View Post
    Such a bug was never confirmed.

    As far as we know is just fearmongering and people who lost their houses trying to cope with the fact they f* up.
    Developers don't tend to confirm bugs unless they can replicate the issue on their internal testing servers. Depending on the circumstances, it can take a considerable number of player reports for them to narrow down the possible cause before they can attempt to replicate it. Look at how long it took them to acknowledge that server connectivity issue was a problem with their servers instead of an ISP issue as they had been claiming for a couple of years.

    The problem in this case is that players generally aren't even going to realize something has gone wrong until some days after the fact, making it that much more difficult for developers to gather the relevant data they would need.

    SE is not unaware of the possible bug. The wording on one of the warning emails even tells owners to enter the house then check the Estate timer to make certain that the auto-demolition no longer shows as pending. If they were convinced there is no bug and that entering was sufficient, there would be no need to tell players to check the Estate timer.

    The point here is not to promote fearmongering. As I said above, the majority of players have nothing to fear because they're entering their house on a regular basis. Most of them are probably doing what we know will force reset of the demolition timer just out of habit - interacting with the Summoning Bell or a NPC vendor.

    The point is to promote caution among those who aren't entering their houses on a regular basis and don't wish to lose the house. If you're only entering once every 30-45 days, make certain that the pending demolition has been canceled either through getting the chat message when entering or through the Estate timers. Those like Stormpeaks and Knot_D who are long time house owners and rarely use their houses are already in the habit of checking for it. Others need to start forming that habit.

    On the rare chance it doesn't reset, then interact with something in the house. That should force the reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    There is a bug where sometimes autodemo doesn't reset just from entry. Its a bug, its not supposed to happen, but it does occasionally. Interacting with an NPC or the bell resets it if you get that bug.
    The myth of there is a bug.
    Both English and Japanese tech forum never has this issue reported and acknowledged.
    Also, if you are entering your house daily, how is it matter?
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