And on today's episode of "What people?"...Agreed, but some people want them to be mandatory instead of optional. They don't want people to have the option to skip. They want instances to be like Praetorium. Except, instead of an in-game feature, they peer pressure and threaten to report anyone who pulls early. It's the pinnacle of overriding the developers' intent to fit your own ulterior motives of instilling social compliance.
You see how they deal with problems in Final Fantasy XIV? Now who really needs to "smoke some weed" here?
while generally this is true for a lot of content, arguably a lot happens in the nier raids during those last cutscenes.imagine thinking "boss spawns and roars" or i guess what nowadays is "spouts off some one-liner for padding/fluff" is such a gripping part of the experience. like the only time this behavior had an excuse was back during old toto-rak, stone vigil and whatever other poorly designed instance tossed a long, actually plot-relevant cutscene at you before the boss.
i think if everyone is okay waiting then wait. if not then someone will pull. the sprout should just keep watching and join when they can.
Yes and yes, matter of fact I waited for a person feeding their dog not even ten minutes ago in MSQ. That post was clearly a joke and as usual it gets taken seriously.
I, unironically, would not mind if the dungeon barriers remained sealed while a Cutscene is up, not force everyone onto the cutscene, just keep it locked, you would still be able to emote, run around, sort your inventory, anything, while waiting, but the 30 second wait would be mandatory, and that would hardly "make everything into Praet", as someone somewhere in this thread tried to strawman the point, nobody would complain about Praet if the extent of the mandatory cutscene was Gaius going "En garde, have at ye!", or whatever, in under a minute, the problem is that we have to watch to Cid discuss his daddy issues with Gaius, then attend to Cid and Nero's couples therapy session, then Gaius' monologue, that's what makes it add up, its nowhere near the same as most other dungeons.
I still watch cutscenes for the first time, whether you like it or not, whether you are waiting for me or not. Moreover, I don't care what you think about it. If you're itching to start a fight, start, I don't care about that either.Why do we allow one single person watching cutscenes to hold up the time of all 23 other people? We never used to do this in Stormblood, because guess what, you can watch the cutscene in the inn later by yourself.
Why is this now a thing? When did we suddenly get this influx of carebears?
Exactly.
Being besides players experiencing it for the first time... that momentary reflection of where you once were and what you experienced through others... it's hard to describe it? but it's a one time thing to be cherished. For me, helping 1st time clears can there for be satisfying. The reminiscences that you once were in their struggling shoes and re-experiencing the first time clear by being along side their journey is " Satisfying ".
Desire to go as fast as possible? goes towards " Optimization ". Uptime/Rotation/Slidecasting/Raidbuffs/Tinctures/Flawless/Zero-Mistakes etc. This is not everyone's up of tea... and it should never be forced upon players as the gold standard. Expecting players to play at x performance? is wishful thinking since the only character you control is " yours " and no one else's. And you cannot tell players how to play either in-game that's against TOS. The conclusion becomes rudimentary...
Want it done ASAP? Carry as many stones you can to be as weightless as possible for the Raid vs making the Raid heavier yourself. Someone else messes up? then you continue to play as flawless as you can to pick up the slack if how fast something needs to be done matters to you. That's all you can do
Last edited by CelestiCer; 04-20-2023 at 12:15 PM.
Actually I am wondering with there is a debate. Op is right, what's the point of waiting for people watching cutscenes? If we pull during the cutscene they miss what...? 20 sec? 35 sec max? What a big deal. Time is precious, you are not ruining anyone experience. Just pull
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