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  1. #101
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    Somehow, both sides of this argument have managed to be so inane that it further strengthens the idea that the status quo is fine.
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  2. #102
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Mao doesn't see a problem here. Mao regularly visits Mao's house.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    Somehow, both sides of this argument have managed to be so inane that it further strengthens the idea that the status quo is fine.
    That's usually how any discussion ends up in this forum.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    What next? Spreadsheets are third party tool? How dare I keep track of those 45 days like everyone here keeps telling us to do!11!! Do you realize how absurd you sound?
    No one said it was? Jojoya simply saying, if you're using your house/s you don't need to keep a spreadsheet updated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    Fixed that last paragraph.
    You know there is a edit button, right?
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    I have over 100 houses, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of workshops and when I last entered my homes.
    The game isn't meant for one person to have 100+ houses. If you need a spreadsheet to keep track of them, you could certainly relinquish a few. Personally I would feel ashamed to own so many houses given the in game situation.

    OP had one house. Knowing when you entered it last is a no brainer.
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  6. #106
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    I'm not saying this at all. It is 100% OP's fault for losing the house, and an inactive house should go back on the market. I'm agreeing with OP about there being many flaws in the system, and that a notification like the lottery collection notification wouldn't be a terrible idea. People rarely visit their timers tab, and some don't know it exists. It would also help if SE was more clear in their wording about people entering their house, instead of just engaging with their yard. Life happens, and SE's email notification leaves a lot to be desired as I pointed out in my earlier post.

    I don't think OP was looking for sympathy, and they were only posting a suggestion like many other people. What is wild is the number of unconstructive comments telling OP they don't "deserve" their house.

    On that note, I'm not looking for sympathy either. I've been in housing for over 7 years, and have never lost a house to demo. I have over 100 houses, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of workshops and when I last entered my homes. That doesn't mean I don't sympathize with people who are more casual about housing.
    So you are comparing having 100 houses and needing a spreadsheet with someone with only one house that all they have to do is enter the house one time in 45 days, good comparison there
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  7. #107
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    Fixed that last paragraph.
    Just think. If you were actually using all those 100+ houses, you wouldn't need a spreadsheet to track them or any sort of notification at all.

    For all that you mention workshops, sounds like you're not using most if any of them. After all, passing through the house to enter the workshop would be resetting the demo timer so no need to track when you last entered. Voyage status is easily checked on the Estate Timer when you log onto your character.

    If you actually are actively operating 100+ workshops, then it's an excellent example of why workshops need to be detached from house ownership.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    Somehow, both sides of this argument have managed to be so inane that it further strengthens the idea that the status quo is fine.
    I agree the current notification system is fine. It's got the in-game notification in the Estate Timer available for active players to check at any time. It's got the out of game notification for players who may have had real life issues pop up interfering with their ability to play so they'll know it's pending and do what's necessary.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Just think. If you were actually using all those 100+ houses, you wouldn't need a spreadsheet to track them or any sort of notification at all.

    For all that you mention workshops, sounds like you're not using most if any of them. After all, passing through the house to enter the workshop would be resetting the demo timer so no need to track when you last entered. Voyage status is easily checked on the Estate Timer when you log onto your character.

    If you actually are actively operating 100+ workshops, then it's an excellent example of why workshops need to be detached from house ownership.


    I agree the current notification system is fine. It's got the in-game notification in the Estate Timer available for active players to check at any time. It's got the out of game notification for players who may have had real life issues pop up interfering with their ability to play so they'll know it's pending and do what's necessary.
    Jojoya, Mao has question. Mao does not see any notification abouts how much time Mao has left in Estate section of Timers. Is in another section or only shows ups under certain circumstances?
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Jojoya, Mao has question. Mao does not see any notification abouts how much time Mao has left in Estate section of Timers. Is in another section or only shows ups under certain circumstances?
    It appears if you have 15 days or less left. It will be at the top of the estate tab.
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  10. #110
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    It appears if you have 15 days or less left. It will be at the top of the estate tab.
    Thanks for info! Must be why Mao never sees this. Mao logs in almost daily.
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