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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratini View Post
    So let me get this straight it's Square Enix fault for the OP not checking the timer tab where you can see pretty much everything time-based in the game.

    Ok

    You know what would be easier than multiple warnings? You know... OP actually... using... the house?

    I'm sorry but people like you and OP get no sympathy from me. In my honest opinion they already do a lot by sending emails. Inactive houses should be relocated to other players.
    I'm not saying this at all. It is 100% OP's fault for losing the house, and an inactive house should go back on the market. I'm agreeing with OP about there being many flaws in the system, and that a notification like the lottery collection notification wouldn't be a terrible idea. People rarely visit their timers tab, and some don't know it exists. It would also help if SE was more clear in their wording about people entering their house, instead of just engaging with their yard. Life happens, and SE's email notification leaves a lot to be desired as I pointed out in my earlier post.

    I don't think OP was looking for sympathy, and they were only posting a suggestion like many other people. What is wild is the number of unconstructive comments telling OP they don't "deserve" their house.

    On that note, I'm not looking for sympathy either. I've been in housing for over 7 years, and have never lost a house to demo. I have over 100 houses, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of workshops and when I last entered my homes. That doesn't mean I don't sympathize with people who are more casual about housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    I'm not saying this at all. It is 100% OP's fault for losing the house, and an inactive house should go back on the market. I'm agreeing with OP about there being many flaws in the system, and that a notification like the lottery collection notification wouldn't be a terrible idea. People rarely visit their timers tab, and some don't know it exists. It would also help if SE was more clear in their wording about people entering their house, instead of just engaging with their yard. Life happens, and SE's email notification leaves a lot to be desired as I pointed out in my earlier post.

    I don't think OP was looking for sympathy, and they were only posting a suggestion like many other people. What is wild is the number of unconstructive comments telling OP they don't "deserve" their house.

    On that note, I'm not looking for sympathy either. I've been in housing for over 7 years, and have never lost a house to demo. I use a spreadsheet to keep track of when I've entered my homes. That doesn't mean I don't sympathize with people who are more casual about housing.
    The point is that there is no need for more notifications because it's fine as it is.

    People not using their houses got their house auto demo'd, working as intended. There is no need for a bright red flashing message "YOUR HOUSE IS ABOUT TO GET DEMO'D, TELEPORT NOW !!".

    If you use the house, you'll keep it, if you dont, you wont, period. As it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    I don't think OP was looking for sympathy, and they were only posting a suggestion like many other people. What is wild is the number of unconstructive comments telling OP they don't "deserve" their house.
    And it's a suggestion that many of us feel is unnecessary because of the other notifications already offered. Hundreds of thousands of players have no problem keeping their house. Why does SE need to change things for the 0.0002% that can't seem to remember they own one?

    SE is the one who set the policy of enter it once every forty-five days or forfeit the house. They have set the standard for who deserves one and who doesn't.

    Do I want a system where demolition isn't even necessary so this entire discussion would be pointless? Definitely, but until such time as we get such a system I've got no sympathy for those who buy into the system then don't maintain use of it. As several of us have repeated in this thread, if players are using their house then the notifications are not necessary.

    As for players who don't bother to check their timers, that's their choice. I will check mine several times a week. About the only timers listed that I ignore are the ones for Leve allowances and Ehcatl Nine deliveries. They're extremely helpful when it comes to keeping track of what's been done if you have more than one character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    And it's a suggestion that many of us feel is unnecessary because of the other notifications already offered. Hundreds of thousands of players have no problem keeping their house. Why does SE need to change things for the 0.0002% that can't seem to remember they own one?

    SE is the one who set the policy of enter it once every forty-five days or forfeit the house. They have set the standard for who deserves one and who doesn't.

    Do I want a system where demolition isn't even necessary so this entire discussion would be pointless? Definitely, but until such time as we get such a system I've got no sympathy for those who buy into the system then don't maintain use of it. As several of us have repeated in this thread, if players are using their house then the notifications are not necessary.

    As for players who don't bother to check their timers, that's their choice. I will check mine several times a week. About the only timers listed that I ignore are the ones for Leve allowances and Ehcatl Nine deliveries. They're extremely helpful when it comes to keeping track of what's been done if you have more than one character.
    It's a suggestion thread. SE did set the system, but that doesn't mean someone can't post an idea that might be an improvement. There are many threads posting what people thinking might be helpful to improve the game, and I don't see nearly the amount of vitriol in those threads as I've seen here. Just like you said, you have no sympathy. That's fine, but does that really belong here? Does it add anything constructive for or against this argument. No. It just comes off plain mean. You're just as much part of the problem as many others on this thread. It's cool to disagree. Both sides of an argument should be presented, but there's no need to be mean or cruel about it like many of the posters ganging up on the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    On that note, I'm not looking for sympathy either. I've been in housing for over 7 years, and have never lost a house to demo. I have over 100 houses, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of workshops and when I last entered my homes. That doesn't mean I don't sympathize with people who are more casual about housing.
    Fixed that last paragraph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    Fixed that last paragraph.
    Just think. If you were actually using all those 100+ houses, you wouldn't need a spreadsheet to track them or any sort of notification at all.

    For all that you mention workshops, sounds like you're not using most if any of them. After all, passing through the house to enter the workshop would be resetting the demo timer so no need to track when you last entered. Voyage status is easily checked on the Estate Timer when you log onto your character.

    If you actually are actively operating 100+ workshops, then it's an excellent example of why workshops need to be detached from house ownership.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    Somehow, both sides of this argument have managed to be so inane that it further strengthens the idea that the status quo is fine.
    I agree the current notification system is fine. It's got the in-game notification in the Estate Timer available for active players to check at any time. It's got the out of game notification for players who may have had real life issues pop up interfering with their ability to play so they'll know it's pending and do what's necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Just think. If you were actually using all those 100+ houses, you wouldn't need a spreadsheet to track them or any sort of notification at all.

    For all that you mention workshops, sounds like you're not using most if any of them. After all, passing through the house to enter the workshop would be resetting the demo timer so no need to track when you last entered. Voyage status is easily checked on the Estate Timer when you log onto your character.

    If you actually are actively operating 100+ workshops, then it's an excellent example of why workshops need to be detached from house ownership.


    I agree the current notification system is fine. It's got the in-game notification in the Estate Timer available for active players to check at any time. It's got the out of game notification for players who may have had real life issues pop up interfering with their ability to play so they'll know it's pending and do what's necessary.
    Jojoya, Mao has question. Mao does not see any notification abouts how much time Mao has left in Estate section of Timers. Is in another section or only shows ups under certain circumstances?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Jojoya, Mao has question. Mao does not see any notification abouts how much time Mao has left in Estate section of Timers. Is in another section or only shows ups under certain circumstances?
    It appears if you have 15 days or less left. It will be at the top of the estate tab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    It appears if you have 15 days or less left. It will be at the top of the estate tab.
    Thanks for info! Must be why Mao never sees this. Mao logs in almost daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Thanks for info! Must be why Mao never sees this. Mao logs in almost daily.
    It's not logging in that resets the timer. It's entering the house that resets it. I imagine you're entering almost every day if not every day so the timer never reaches 30 days without entry.

    Probably the easiest way for someone to keep on top of their timer is to log out at their house. Log in, pop inside to check retainers or see if gear needs repair, and you're set. Even if someone can't play daily, they would be unlikely to miss resetting the timer on those days they are playing.
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