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  1. #411
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    The problem is that a lot of people are currently satisfied with things as-is:
    I mean I am xD? My goal was to own multiple plots to decorate and I'd say I been successful with my four plots. That's all I care about.

    Players are unsatisfied with a lot of things, some even quit their subscription and it achieves absolutely " Nothing ". Mustering up all players of Dynamis to protest is unrealistic and even if you could Dynamis by default is the minority DC. This problem also isn't new since other Datacenters have had this issue, some? even before Data-Center traveling.
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  2. #412
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    UkcsAlias's Avatar
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Of course there will be a rise with 7.0, and what once these people are disappointed and leave (which is bound to happen, it happens with every single mmo in the industry), what will happen to people on those servers ?
    The dissapointment might be significantly less, since the peak might actualy get enough population going to take it to a satisfyable state. Those that would otherwise leave might therefor delay that action by quite some time.

    But it becomes better, since at expansion time the popular worlds are that much congested, that even if the DC has a lot of lag, it still is better because you can at least play. There is a good likelyness that a lot of players will DC travel to these, and then discover how good connections actualy are. Who knows how many people will stick to those DCs then?


    However, there is 1 thing that i think should be done to realy make it work even better. We alreay have a language selection for the duty finder, imagine also having DCs as an option in them. Then the base DC doesnt matter since for the duty it can enable a mixture of DCs. And especialy when the queues on 1 DC are quite empty, it can use the other DCs to assist. Which in practice means that the emptier DC will for a single duty place their players on a diffirent DC. In these duties there is no trading etc going on, so on that there is no full travel requirement anyway.

    Once queue times become normal regardless of DC, the DC choise wont hurt anymore. Either you have the further DC which is more populated, but face a constant situation of latecy. Or you have the close DC and end up with significantly less lag, unless player counts went low and you are now put to your old DC. At which point it doesnt hurt since at least being able to play is better than not being able at all.
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  3. #413
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Of course there will be a rise with 7.0, and what once these people are disappointed and leave (which is bound to happen, it happens with every single mmo in the industry), what will happen to people on those servers ? They'll be left with a shell of a server and a completely dead datacenter, forced to go over to chaos or light to do any sort of content, why even have it in the first place ? To pretend that the game is full to the brim while it isnt outside of the new expansion release ? Is it really worth spreading the community even more on EU for that reason ? I dont think so
    Valid points. What would you suggest then, to suspend any expansion plans for our region?
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  4. #414
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Valid points. What would you suggest then, to suspend any expansion plans for our region?
    Well that would be my opinion honestly, I just think and this is just my point of view, that the EU region doesnt have anywhere near enough players for an entirely new datacenter, we just don't, and there wont be any significant changes in population anytime soon aside from the peak with the new expansion which as I said is fair, but wont bring long term numbers to the new datacenter.

    Take in mind and take as example that the NA region, that has a LOT more players than us europeans, is barely managing 4 new worlds, 1 is pretty packed, and the other 3 are pretty close to ghost towns or at best Halicarnassus medium populated, leaving the last 2 in an extra low pop state.

    Now put us europeans, with barely 2 DC and 2 almost dead worlds (Raiden / Sagi) and imagine what would happen with 8 new worlds.

    Its just not realistic and they really should reconsider the plan for the new EU DC, they really should, for the sake of existing and future players.

    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    The dissapointment might be significantly less, since the peak might actualy get enough population going to take it to a satisfyable state. Those that would otherwise leave might therefor delay that action by quite some time.

    But it becomes better, since at expansion time the popular worlds are that much congested, that even if the DC has a lot of lag, it still is better because you can at least play. There is a good likelyness that a lot of players will DC travel to these, and then discover how good connections actualy are. Who knows how many people will stick to those DCs then?


    However, there is 1 thing that i think should be done to realy make it work even better. We alreay have a language selection for the duty finder, imagine also having DCs as an option in them. Then the base DC doesnt matter since for the duty it can enable a mixture of DCs. And especialy when the queues on 1 DC are quite empty, it can use the other DCs to assist. Which in practice means that the emptier DC will for a single duty place their players on a diffirent DC. In these duties there is no trading etc going on, so on that there is no full travel requirement anyway.

    Once queue times become normal regardless of DC, the DC choise wont hurt anymore. Either you have the further DC which is more populated, but face a constant situation of latecy. Or you have the close DC and end up with significantly less lag, unless player counts went low and you are now put to your old DC. At which point it doesnt hurt since at least being able to play is better than not being able at all.
    If I got it right, you are asking for cross DC duty finder, which I absolutely approve of and should have been a feature a long time ago already, honestly.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 04-17-2023 at 09:21 PM.

  5. #415
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    So, I'm on Aether, but it seems like the majority of people talking about how dead Dynamis is don't play on Dynamis.
    The majority of people in here probably don't even play on the characters they use for their forum avatars so it's hard to say. Currently I spend more time on my Marilith characters than I do on this character and my other characters on Coeurl.

    Dynamis isn't dead but it is low pop with players focused more around leveling content than end game content. It's only to be expected that it will be harder to get a party for end game activity. And yet if you actually try, you can usually get that party. PF is a very good way to go if it's showing a long queue time.
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  6. #416
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 100
    As someone who has been there on main since Day 1, the population of Limsa in Marilith is a lot larger than it used to be. Is it wall to wall packed like the other 3 DCs? No and frankly I never expected it to be. However, considering where we are now to where we were at the beginning, there's a noticeable increase especially in the afternoon/night hours.

    As far as I'm aware of, the game is still putting new players into Dynamis automatically so it's not really a shock to me that end-game content isn't pulling the same crowd as the others, we got a large portion of the population still getting through everything else and they still would have to be interested in raiding to begin with.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 04-18-2023 at 03:20 AM.

  7. #417
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    As someone who has been there on main since Day 1, the population of Limsa in Marilith is a lot larger than it used to be. Is it wall to wall packed like the other 3 DCs? No and frankly I never expected it to be. However, considering where we are now to where we were at the beginning, there's a noticeable increase especially in the afternoon/night hours.

    As far as I'm aware of, the game is still putting new players into Dynamis automatically so it's not really a shock to me that end-game content isn't pulling the same crowd as the others, we got a large portion of the population still getting through everything else and they still would have to be interested in raiding to begin with.
    Endgame content is dead on Crystal, and dying on Primal. That one specifically is not a dynamis issue.
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  8. #418
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    Khara Relanah
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Endgame content is dead on Crystal, and dying on Primal. That one specifically is not a dynamis issue.
    That's because Aether has the reputation as the raid DC and now its a self fulfilling prophecy. The reason raiders go to Aether is because raiders go to Aether. Same reason roleplayers go to Crystal.
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  9. #419
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    Montana Wildhack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    That's the mean reason I left. I gave it loads of time, but it restricts your options, especially if you have limited gameplay time. It's like paying the same subscription as someone on Aether, but having half the features. But it makes them $18 everytime one of us gets fed up with it. So why would they fix it?

    I left, as well. Worst decisionI mage moving to Dynamis. Made us stay for 90 days, yuk! So happy I left.
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  10. #420
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    As someone who has been there on main since Day 1, the population of Limsa in Marilith is a lot larger than it used to be. Is it wall to wall packed like the other 3 DCs? No and frankly I never expected it to be. However, considering where we are now to where we were at the beginning, there's a noticeable increase especially in the afternoon/night hours.

    As far as I'm aware of, the game is still putting new players into Dynamis automatically so it's not really a shock to me that end-game content isn't pulling the same crowd as the others, we got a large portion of the population still getting through everything else and they still would have to be interested in raiding to begin with.
    Everyone there seems to like congregating in Gridania I've noticed, at least when I've logged in. I chose Twin Adder so I have reason to be there a lot. Lags me a little sometimes with just how many peeps there are around. So many sprouts still. People are still working their way through the story.
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